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By: Jon Udell | Ra Puke Moana

Jon Udell | Ra Puke Moana — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:33:35 +0000

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By: Eric Dobbs

Eric Dobbs — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:45:20 +0000

Just ran across 1000 Memories, a startup which seems to be interested in at least one dimension of your project: the online memorial for a family member:

http://1000memories.com/

They were in the biggest Y-combinator demo day to date:

http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/24/y-combinator-demo-day-2/

Didn’t look exactly like what you have in mind, but they might be especially motivated to support a project like this.

By: Phil Gyford

Phil Gyford — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:51:13 +0000

I finally got round to writing up what I had to do to get the Diary of Samuel Pepys website working properly in Movable Type: http://www.gyford.com/phil/writing/2010/07/09/mt-old-dates.php Probably no direct use to you Jon, but possibly for others who might come across this.

By: bowerbird

bowerbird — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:49:33 +0000

> Where?

my system isn’t yet ready for release to the public.
so please e-mail me to get that location info, jon.

anyone else who wants to mount a similar project
can e-mail me to take a stab with my system too:
> bowerbird@aol.com

-bowerbird

By: Jon Udell

Jon Udell — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:17:57 +0000

Where?

By: bowerbird

bowerbird — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:12:25 +0000

i set up my system with letters from your sites,
if you would be interested in taking a look at it.

-bowerbird

By: Jon Udell

Jon Udell — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:31:50 +0000

I’m noticing a couple of details.

1. slugs and URLs

The most recent pattern is:

Title: July 20, 1961 – Kids’ adjustment (Anita)

URL: http://lettersfromindia1961.wordpress.com/1961/07/20/july-20-1961-kids-adjustment-anita/

The slug, in WP lingo, is this piece of the URL:

july-20-1961-kids-adjustment-anita

These are made automatically from the titles. But they can be adjusted afterward. I would recommend subtracting the redundant dates from them so the URLs come out like this:

http://lettersfromindia1961.wordpress.com/1961/07/20/kids-adjustment-anita/

2. Order of items on tag pages

Here’s the tag page for Galbraith:

http://lettersfromindia1961.wordpress.com/tag/galbraith/

The items come out in WP default order, namely reverse chronological. But your style for this project is to run forward in time.

There is a way to make tag pages do that:

http://lettersfromindia1961.wordpress.com/tag/galbraith/?order=asc

However, there doesn’t seem to be a way to make the WordPress.com tag cloud widget produce links having that form. It would be interesting to know if there’s another way to do it.

By: Ruth Kunstadter

Ruth Kunstadter — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:08:52 +0000

Hi all,

Jon’s solution, with the addition of the archives section noted above (and after many fits, starts, and more “help!” emails than I’m sure Jon wanted to receive) seems to be working pretty well for now. I’m certainly open to looking at other options, as long as they are something that a non-techie can work with (without driving my brother any crazier than I have already done).

Here’s where we are so far –

http://lettersfromindia1961.wordpress.com/

No photos have been added yet, but I’m going to start working on that soon …. and we do have some absolutely stunning ones. If you’re interested, you can see some of them here, in a Google doc I set up in order to start sharing some of the letters and photos –

http://tinyurl.com/yhb2um8.

You will recognize some famous faces in them.

As I mentioned above, Jon has recommended using the pro version of Flickr to categorize the photos, and then import them into WordPress. I think I’d like to intersperse them with the text, as I did with the Google doc, although I’m certainly open to suggestions on that front as well.

Thanks!

Ruth

By: bowerbird

bowerbird — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:15:21 +0000

as i said in the comment section
of the blog entry by hugh mcguire
which hugh pointed to up above,
i think that a purpose-built system
can meet the overall objective better.

so i went off and programmed one…

if ruth would be interested in trying it,
i’d love to help her… just e-mail me…

-bowerbird

By: John Roberts

John Roberts — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:28:56 +0000

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By: Jon Udell

Jon Udell — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:37:34 +0000

Back date the letters with the date they were actually sent on, so you have data fidelity.

Yep, that’s my conclusion too.

A cool feature of WP is that you can add ?order=asc to the homepage and it will put all your entries in chronological order, and you can page through them just like you would a book.

Excellent, thanks!

Trying that on a few different blogs reveals a subtle best practice for templates. Some use Next Page and Previous Page to navigate among clumps, which is fine for any ordering.

But some use Older Entries and Newer Entries, and that breaks if you reverse the order.

What I’d do personally is use the archives shortcode on a page and the “page as homepage” feature to put a chronological list of all the posts right on the homepage, so people could just dive right in.

What Ruth wants to do is have a Home page that introduces the archive, and a Letters page where instead of a table of contents you just start reading the first letter. So the solution for now is to use “page as homepage” for Home, and a copy of the first letter for Letters. When you get to the end of that copy of the first letter, it links to the second Post in the Posts series. From there you’re off and running with forward or backward letter-to-letter navigation, plus tags for random access. I think it’ll work out really well.

Separately we’ll add an Index page and use the [archives] feature as you’ve suggested.

If you contact support we’re happy to make the necessary adjustments free of charge.

Nice. Once the dust settles we just might do that.

Thanks Matt!

By: Tim Hare

Tim Hare — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 02:57:50 +0000

Hmm – maybe Google Calendar would work (I really haven’t played with it) – but you could add entries with date easily enough.

By: Tim Hare

Tim Hare — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 02:55:54 +0000

This could be a job for VJOURNAL components in an iCalendar file; except that I’m not sure what “clients” (including browsers) really pay attention to this often-overlooked part of the spec.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:28:43 +0000

Hey Boris! How I would do this: Back date the letters with the date they were actually sent on, so you have data fidelity. A cool feature of WP is that you can add ?order=asc to the homepage and it will put all your entries in chronological order, and you can page through them just like you would a book. What I'd do personally is use the archives shortcode on a page and the "page as homepage" feature to put a chronological list of all the posts right on the homepage, so people could just dive right in. Tag the heck out of the posts As for the dates before epoch issue, unfortunately that's a bug here on WP.com. It's a bit of a bizarre one, that we can only fix by hardcoding your blog to a single datacenter. Iif you contact support we're happy to make the necessary adjustments free of charge.