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]]> By: bowerbird http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/08/25/purple-numbers-for-pdf-documents/#comment-129983 Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:31:44 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/?p=1854#comment-129983 jon said:
> and methods that make that tonnage
> less useless are useful in proportion to
> the tonnage.

are they? i’m not so sure. i think rather
they make us think we can “live with” .pdf.

instead, let’s work on a better alternative.

i’ve got one, and i’d love for you to see it,
evaluate it, and — if you think it worthy –
champion it.

-bowerbird

]]> By: Andrew Gilmartin http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/08/25/purple-numbers-for-pdf-documents/#comment-129981 Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:59:50 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/?p=1854#comment-129981 Adobe’s Acrobat Reader supports linking within a PDF but others, for example Foxit Reader, do not.

I am very glad to see efforts to help government department’s create citable documents. A simple first step would be to just add revision date and number every paragraph. Have a clear, one page instruction sheet on how to do this within Microsoft Word. And then distributed it to every Town Manager and government office manager in the US. Perhaps make it a one page advertisement in trade journals!

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/08/25/purple-numbers-for-pdf-documents/#comment-129978 Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:41:45 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/?p=1854#comment-129978 > let’s get rid of .pdf as an “archival” format

I violently agree. However there’s a ton of it out there, and tons more in the pipeline, and methods that make that tonnage less useless are useful in proportion to the tonnage.

]]> By: bowerbird http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/08/25/purple-numbers-for-pdf-documents/#comment-129972 Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:05:00 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/?p=1854#comment-129972 let’s get rid of .pdf as an “archival” format,
and not waste our time and energy trying to
juryrig methods to make them less useless…

please…

-bowerbird

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/08/25/purple-numbers-for-pdf-documents/#comment-129953 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:22:57 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/?p=1854#comment-129953 > I would hate it to be something that causes
> the PDF to be downloaded from a web
> location and then scrolled to the
> particular place.

That is, in fact, how it works. It is an application of the same HTTP Byte Range feature that I was exploring when I did the MP3 Sound Bites hack (http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2004/09/03/primetime.html).

I think may make sense to separate two different concerns here, however. One is the creation of a namespace that will unify citations pointing into government PDFs. Another is the implementation of a mechanism to serve that namespace.

In the HTML realm, Silona is already talking about a shadow service that augments gov sites with features like Purple Numbers. I guess the same could be done for the PDF realm.

]]> By: orcmid http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/08/25/purple-numbers-for-pdf-documents/#comment-129951 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:10:35 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/?p=1854#comment-129951 I’m not sure what the permalink behind the purple number would be in a PDF. I would hate it to be something that causes the PDF to be downloaded from a web location and then scrolled to the particular place. That might be better than having to download the PDF and then search for a cited place in it, but I can see mischief here too.

I put purple links in my web-based work to provide anchors that are useful in citing passages, but I am not so sure this is a great idea for anything but self-referenced fragment IDs into XML and HTML documents.

]]> By: Dave Pawson http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/08/25/purple-numbers-for-pdf-documents/#comment-129947 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:43:43 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/?p=1854#comment-129947 What about 508 in the states Jon? If the department has to provide alternative formats, how might you relate ‘purple number XXX’ with the same point in the audio or braille version of the document?

]]> By: Dave Pawson http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/08/25/purple-numbers-for-pdf-documents/#comment-129946 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:11:50 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/?p=1854#comment-129946 Considering that many … most? official types of document are pretty well locked down, adding anything other than by the owner would be pretty hard Jon?

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