Comments on: Curation, meta-curation, and live Net radio

By: Yuwei Lin

Yuwei Lin — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:19:53 +0000

Hello Jon, I’m currently carrying out a study on BBC Backstage. I wondered whether you’d be interested in being interviewed about your experiences with backstage’s APIs, data feeds, and other activities? We operate very strict confidentiality research ethics policy. Please email me if you’re interested. Cheers.

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By: Ian Forrester

Ian Forrester — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:17:35 +0000

Jon, you may have seen the blog post by David (a BBC developer) – http://reliablybroken.com/b/2009/08/bbc-icalendar-schedules/

The schedules have been fixed with regards to the date.

By: David Buxton

David Buxton — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:46:52 +0000

I don’t know if there are other ways of doing it, but the BBC data has GroupInformation with a related Result which refers to one or more ProgrammeInformation elements, each of which will have a ScheduleEvent (more than one ScheduleEvent if the transmission is repeated).

So a daily soap opera like Eastenders is not a repeating event as such, but each episode is marked as part of one series, and you can determine the 10 pm transmission on BBC3 is the exact same episode as the 7 pm transmission on BBC1.

By: Jon Udell

Jon Udell — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:47:24 +0000

Outstanding! Thanks!

I have a couple of questions.

1. Can the source format — TV-Anytime — express recurrence?

2. If so, do regularly scheduled BBC shows use that capability?

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Reliably Broken » BBC iCalendar schedules — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:28:08 +0000

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By: David Buxton

David Buxton — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:55:52 +0000

Your post motivated me to fix time zone handling on the iCalendar feeds I generate from the BBC’s schedules.

You can find iCalendar files for most (all?) BBC telly and radio schedules here: http://reliablybroken.com/guide/

The Python script that generates them daily is here: http://reliablybroken.com/guide/bbcguidetz.py

If you see anything that needs fixing please let me know.

Always enjoy your blog, thank you.

David

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Doc Searls Weblog · Tuning time and place — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:19:10 +0000

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By: martind

martind — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:46:35 +0000

Last year I wrote a simple website that aggregates Last.fm user tag radio stations, with a very similar motivation: finding good curators of Last.fm tag radio stations (I called them “mediators”.)

While Last.fm tag radio is not strictly web radio as you describe it, it has the advantage that its stations are easy to discover and aggregate in an automated fashion. (I’m using a combination of manual curation of Last.fm users/stations, and a simple crawler that scans selected Last.fm community pages where people meet to talk about tags and tag radio.)

http://www.last.fm/group/Subscribers+and+their+tag+radio+stations/forum/59223/_/407616
http://dekstop.de/weblog/2008/05/pool_radio/

By: Jon Udell

Jon Udell — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:35:29 +0000

> Have you seen publicradiofan.com? It
> seems to be doing a lot of what you’re
> trying to do here.

No, I hadn’t. Fabulous resource, thanks!

> The interface is a bit crude

Does the job perfectly well, though. Set your timezone, see what’s playing now, listen. Sweet!

> bringing it all together would be handy

Yeah, it would be nice to have a lot else besides public radio included in this kind of “what’s playing now” view. College radio, for example, at least what I’ve sampled of it in the US, can be fruitful.

Thought experiment: Imagine you had virtually the entire universe of live Net-streaming radio available on this basis. Perhaps many thousands of shows playing right now, each the result of a particular flavor of curation. How interesting/valuable might it be to have a layer of meta-curation on top of that? I.e., from a variety of perspectives, here are the shows that this or that meta-curator thinks are special.

By: Cassandra

Cassandra — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:49:09 +0000

Hey Jon,

Have you seen publicradiofan.com? It seems to be doing a lot of what you’re trying to do here. The interface is a bit crude, but you can sort and limit display by time, program, format, etc. They’ve got US public radio stations, BBC, CBC, and ABC (Australia) covered. No idea if they have any feeds, but there might be something in there you could use….

This is a recurring problem for me also – bringing it all together would be handy.

See you –
Cass