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		<title>By: It’s the headings, stupid!!!</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/06/15/when-does-afternoon-begin/#comment-128564</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It’s the headings, stupid!!!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] recent adventure in naming the times of day was so much fun that I lost track of the original purpose of the exercise, which was to improve [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: It’s the headings, stupid!!! &#124; Tech-monkey.info Blogs</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/06/15/when-does-afternoon-begin/#comment-128414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It’s the headings, stupid!!! &#124; Tech-monkey.info Blogs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] recent adventure in naming the times of day was so much fun that I lost track of the original purpose of the exercise, which was to improve [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s the headings, stupid!!! &#171; Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/06/15/when-does-afternoon-begin/#comment-128411</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It&#8217;s the headings, stupid!!! &#171; Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Posted by Jon Udell under Uncategorized Leave a Comment&#160;   My recent adventure in naming the times of day was so much fun that I completely missed the point of the original exercise, which was to improve [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted by Jon Udell under Uncategorized Leave a Comment&nbsp;   My recent adventure in naming the times of day was so much fun that I completely missed the point of the original exercise, which was to improve [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Irish</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/06/15/when-does-afternoon-begin/#comment-128329</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Irish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Related: I&#039;ve always hated when &#039;tomorrow&#039; starts at midnight. When you&#039;re staying up late, past midnight, to work on something, &#039;tomorrow&#039; is not your &#039;today&#039;.

So my rule was &#039;tomorrow&#039; begins at &lt;i&gt;6am or sunrise&lt;/i&gt;.

&#039;Course that was in college, so to be fair, I think 5am or sunrise works, even though it lacks a certain ring to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related: I&#8217;ve always hated when &#8216;tomorrow&#8217; starts at midnight. When you&#8217;re staying up late, past midnight, to work on something, &#8216;tomorrow&#8217; is not your &#8216;today&#8217;.</p>
<p>So my rule was &#8216;tomorrow&#8217; begins at <i>6am or sunrise</i>.</p>
<p>&#8216;Course that was in college, so to be fair, I think 5am or sunrise works, even though it lacks a certain ring to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/06/15/when-does-afternoon-begin/#comment-128247</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, now I&#039;m trying this instead:

05:00-11:30 Morning
11:30-01:30 Lunch
01:30-05:30 Afternoon
05:30-09:00 Evening
09:00-01:30 Night
01:30-05:00 Wee Hours

The thinking behind Lunch is that in the events domain, it&#039;s an important peg on which to hang things.

A curator will, of course, be able to define Gweep Standard Time. The mechanism to do so will be only mildly gweepy, involving some Delicious tags.

Note, though, that you wouldn&#039;t want to impose GST on a whole geographic community, which would include many non-gweeps. 

That implies either or both of:

1. Users can request a GST overlay on a geographic aggregation.

2. The aggregation is topical, like http://calagator.org/, in which case GST might be an appropriate community norm.

It&#039;s all doable. But I&#039;m not sure any of this advances the real goal of this project, which is to encourage non-gweeps to understand and apply the principles of:

- syndication
- tagging
- structured data
- pub/sub 
- aggregation

From that point of view, the choices that Stamen made with the Oakland time vocabulary are instructive. In my interview with Eric Rodenbeck, he pointed out that the day/night/swingshift terminology was chosen because that&#039;s how the police themselves think about the domain. 

The purpose of the site is to help citizens and police share a common understanding of how crimes are defined in the neighborhood.

I would likewise want to help event promoters and event goers share a common understanding of how public events are defined in a community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, now I&#8217;m trying this instead:</p>
<p>05:00-11:30 Morning<br />
11:30-01:30 Lunch<br />
01:30-05:30 Afternoon<br />
05:30-09:00 Evening<br />
09:00-01:30 Night<br />
01:30-05:00 Wee Hours</p>
<p>The thinking behind Lunch is that in the events domain, it&#8217;s an important peg on which to hang things.</p>
<p>A curator will, of course, be able to define Gweep Standard Time. The mechanism to do so will be only mildly gweepy, involving some Delicious tags.</p>
<p>Note, though, that you wouldn&#8217;t want to impose GST on a whole geographic community, which would include many non-gweeps. </p>
<p>That implies either or both of:</p>
<p>1. Users can request a GST overlay on a geographic aggregation.</p>
<p>2. The aggregation is topical, like <a href="http://calagator.org/" rel="nofollow">http://calagator.org/</a>, in which case GST might be an appropriate community norm.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all doable. But I&#8217;m not sure any of this advances the real goal of this project, which is to encourage non-gweeps to understand and apply the principles of:</p>
<p>- syndication<br />
- tagging<br />
- structured data<br />
- pub/sub<br />
- aggregation</p>
<p>From that point of view, the choices that Stamen made with the Oakland time vocabulary are instructive. In my interview with Eric Rodenbeck, he pointed out that the day/night/swingshift terminology was chosen because that&#8217;s how the police themselves think about the domain. </p>
<p>The purpose of the site is to help citizens and police share a common understanding of how crimes are defined in the neighborhood.</p>
<p>I would likewise want to help event promoters and event goers share a common understanding of how public events are defined in a community.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Brubeck</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/06/15/when-does-afternoon-begin/#comment-128241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Brubeck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back in college, we used Gweep Standard Time:

06-10 Morning
10-14 Midday
14-18 Afternoon
18-22 Evening
22-02 Gweepning
02-06 Oh-my-god-what-are-we-doing-up-this-late-ning

http://everything2.com/title/gweep%2520standard%2520time]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in college, we used Gweep Standard Time:</p>
<p>06-10 Morning<br />
10-14 Midday<br />
14-18 Afternoon<br />
18-22 Evening<br />
22-02 Gweepning<br />
02-06 Oh-my-god-what-are-we-doing-up-this-late-ning</p>
<p><a href="http://everything2.com/title/gweep%2520standard%2520time" rel="nofollow">http://everything2.com/title/gweep%2520standard%2520time</a></p>
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		<title>By: davidm</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/06/15/when-does-afternoon-begin/#comment-128240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davidm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a big believer in the wisdom of crowds, but Yahoo Answers is terrifying in its unqualified answers (remember &quot;male answer syndrome&quot; ?). I&#039;ve seen poor guesses accepted as the best answer for medical questions. Yikes! Maybe it has something to do with the company name.

Since you appear to be breaking time into &quot;normal&quot; periods, I&#039;d suggest &quot;night&quot; should be 9 PM to 1 AM, and 1 AM to 5 AM be &quot;late night&quot; or &quot;early morning.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a big believer in the wisdom of crowds, but Yahoo Answers is terrifying in its unqualified answers (remember &#8220;male answer syndrome&#8221; ?). I&#8217;ve seen poor guesses accepted as the best answer for medical questions. Yikes! Maybe it has something to do with the company name.</p>
<p>Since you appear to be breaking time into &#8220;normal&#8221; periods, I&#8217;d suggest &#8220;night&#8221; should be 9 PM to 1 AM, and 1 AM to 5 AM be &#8220;late night&#8221; or &#8220;early morning.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Reynen</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2009/06/15/when-does-afternoon-begin/#comment-128231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Reynen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is 1:00 PM to 1:30 PM post-lunch nap time?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is 1:00 PM to 1:30 PM post-lunch nap time?</p>
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