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	<title>Comments on: Twine, del.icio.us, and event-driven service integration</title>
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		<title>By: Gardner Writes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A crucial conceptual leap</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/11/17/twine-delicious-and-event-driven-service-integration/#comment-126046</link>
		<dc:creator>Gardner Writes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A crucial conceptual leap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] us might believe we are. One was Jon&#8217;s interview with Nova Spivack about Twine (podcast here, blog reflection here), a service that aims to be a next-generation cross between social bookmarking and the semantic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] us might believe we are. One was Jon&#8217;s interview with Nova Spivack about Twine (podcast here, blog reflection here), a service that aims to be a next-generation cross between social bookmarking and the semantic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Watts</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/11/17/twine-delicious-and-event-driven-service-integration/#comment-125964</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://gnipcentral.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gnip&lt;/a&gt; provides something close to what you describe.

They will push del.icio.us bookmark events to subscribers in near real-time based on user (actor) or tag filters.  Subscribers can also poll for events up to 60 minutes ago.  I don&#039;t think they have del.icio.us tagging events yet.

They also offer public actions from other providers, such as flickr, digg, twitter and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://gnipcentral.com" rel="nofollow">gnip</a> provides something close to what you describe.</p>
<p>They will push del.icio.us bookmark events to subscribers in near real-time based on user (actor) or tag filters.  Subscribers can also poll for events up to 60 minutes ago.  I don&#8217;t think they have del.icio.us tagging events yet.</p>
<p>They also offer public actions from other providers, such as flickr, digg, twitter and others.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Spencer</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/11/17/twine-delicious-and-event-driven-service-integration/#comment-125962</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what .NET services is all about. I would check that out.  BTW, it isn&#039;t .NET only; they have a Java and Ruby binding as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what .NET services is all about. I would check that out.  BTW, it isn&#8217;t .NET only; they have a Java and Ruby binding as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal Van Hecke</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/11/17/twine-delicious-and-event-driven-service-integration/#comment-125955</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal Van Hecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a service (in beta) that aims to do what you describe - it&#039;s at tarpipe.com.

Unfortunately it needs your credentials for the services you want to orchestrate -  most of them do not support Oauth (yet).

(BTW John I commented this yesterday as well but my comment never got out of the spam/moderation queue - I hope it will now)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a service (in beta) that aims to do what you describe &#8211; it&#8217;s at tarpipe.com.</p>
<p>Unfortunately it needs your credentials for the services you want to orchestrate &#8211;  most of them do not support Oauth (yet).</p>
<p>(BTW John I commented this yesterday as well but my comment never got out of the spam/moderation queue &#8211; I hope it will now)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/11/17/twine-delicious-and-event-driven-service-integration/#comment-125930</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; I’ve kind of thought you could drive a lot
&gt; of things just from del.icio.us bookmarks 
&gt; with smart tagging strategies.

Indeed you can, way more than is commonly appreciated. But there&#039;s no practical way to subscribe to near-realtime notification of events in del.icio.us or other services. 

I actually like Roy&#039;s idea a lot. No new protocols, just highly efficient representations of events that anybody can fetch and analyze.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I’ve kind of thought you could drive a lot<br />
&gt; of things just from del.icio.us bookmarks<br />
&gt; with smart tagging strategies.</p>
<p>Indeed you can, way more than is commonly appreciated. But there&#8217;s no practical way to subscribe to near-realtime notification of events in del.icio.us or other services. </p>
<p>I actually like Roy&#8217;s idea a lot. No new protocols, just highly efficient representations of events that anybody can fetch and analyze.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/11/17/twine-delicious-and-event-driven-service-integration/#comment-125929</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The event monitoring does not need 
&gt; necessarily to happen at the data 
&gt; provider’s side

Agreed. On this point, I love this Roy Fielding article:

http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2008/paper-tigers-and-hidden-dragons

Pushing back against the prevalent notion that REST-style polling fails for large-scale event notification, he shows how appropriate resource design -- e.g. a bitmap representation of the global state of all Flickr accounts -- would enable producers and consumers to share the work in a smart way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; The event monitoring does not need<br />
&gt; necessarily to happen at the data<br />
&gt; provider’s side</p>
<p>Agreed. On this point, I love this Roy Fielding article:</p>
<p><a href="http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2008/paper-tigers-and-hidden-dragons" rel="nofollow">http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2008/paper-tigers-and-hidden-dragons</a></p>
<p>Pushing back against the prevalent notion that REST-style polling fails for large-scale event notification, he shows how appropriate resource design &#8212; e.g. a bitmap representation of the global state of all Flickr accounts &#8212; would enable producers and consumers to share the work in a smart way.</p>
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		<title>By: agbiotec</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/11/17/twine-delicious-and-event-driven-service-integration/#comment-125927</link>
		<dc:creator>agbiotec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The event monitoring does not need necessarily to happen at the data provider&#039;s side (del.icio.us), but can easily take place on the consumer&#039;s platform (FriendFeed), by filtering for specific events recorded on the incoming RSS feed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The event monitoring does not need necessarily to happen at the data provider&#8217;s side (del.icio.us), but can easily take place on the consumer&#8217;s platform (FriendFeed), by filtering for specific events recorded on the incoming RSS feed.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Germuska</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/11/17/twine-delicious-and-event-driven-service-integration/#comment-125920</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Germuska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is topical; yesterday I saw OpenCongress&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/753&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;My Political Notebook&quot;&lt;/a&gt; and was thinking along similar lines–the last thing I want is another bookmarklet and another place to store stuff.

I like the &quot;event topic&quot; model, but wonder if it wouldn&#039;t get stalled on trying to articulate an event model? I&#039;ve kind of thought you could drive a lot of things just from del.icio.us bookmarks with smart tagging strategies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is topical; yesterday I saw OpenCongress&#8217;s <a href="http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/753" rel="nofollow">&#8220;My Political Notebook&#8221;</a> and was thinking along similar lines–the last thing I want is another bookmarklet and another place to store stuff.</p>
<p>I like the &#8220;event topic&#8221; model, but wonder if it wouldn&#8217;t get stalled on trying to articulate an event model? I&#8217;ve kind of thought you could drive a lot of things just from del.icio.us bookmarks with smart tagging strategies.</p>
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