Comments on: Socializing the analysis of the socialization of banking http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/ Strategies for Internet citizens Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:54:49 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/#comment-125477 Jon Udell Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:42:23 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/?p=674#comment-125477 > What are we missing? Well, there is commentary here: http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/view/SgjIIQsOtha6Ts1uot6TQ2~ Still, you raise an excellent point. Ideally we'd be able to weave discussion components and visualization components in a variety of ways. And as a matter of fact, Many Eyes visualizations are embeddable. But not, unfortunately, here on this wordpress.com-based blog, which prohibits most forms of active content for reasons of security. I wish there were certain approved sources of active content, though. Seems like wordpress.com could enumerate a set of trusted sources -- Many Eyes, Popfly, etc. > What are we missing?

Well, there is commentary here:

http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/view/SgjIIQsOtha6Ts1uot6TQ2~

Still, you raise an excellent point. Ideally we’d be able to weave discussion components and visualization components in a variety of ways.

And as a matter of fact, Many Eyes visualizations are embeddable. But not, unfortunately, here on this wordpress.com-based blog, which prohibits most forms of active content for reasons of security.

I wish there were certain approved sources of active content, though. Seems like wordpress.com could enumerate a set of trusted sources — Many Eyes, Popfly, etc.

]]> By: GH http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/#comment-125474 GH Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:20:50 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/?p=674#comment-125474 Hmmm... Looks like someone is smoking a big hashpipe in 2008: lots of bubbles going up... Hmmm… Looks like someone is smoking a big hashpipe in 2008: lots of bubbles going up…

]]> By: Jason http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/#comment-125473 Jason Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:24:13 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/?p=674#comment-125473 You said "the result was automatically shared in a social environment that invites discussion". But that isn't quite true. I see 9 (now 10) comments on this blog entry, but zero on the Many Eyes pages (for the chart, the dataset, or the ProPublica dataset you copied from). Why aren't people "riffing on data in a shared online space"? Neither Many Eyes nor Swivel have managed to generate any significant discussion traffic. What are we missing? You said “the result was automatically shared in a social environment that invites discussion”. But that isn’t quite true. I see 9 (now 10) comments on this blog entry, but zero on the Many Eyes pages (for the chart, the dataset, or the ProPublica dataset you copied from).

Why aren’t people “riffing on data in a shared online space”? Neither Many Eyes nor Swivel have managed to generate any significant discussion traffic. What are we missing?

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/#comment-125471 Jon Udell Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:29:15 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/?p=674#comment-125471 > Wouldn’t this be more useful using > percentage of GDP at the time instead > of absolute dollar values? Good point. That's what Many Eyes is all about, of course. Riffing on data in a shared online space, with actual numbers and actual visualizations. > Wouldn’t this be more useful using
> percentage of GDP at the time instead
> of absolute dollar values?

Good point. That’s what Many Eyes is all about, of course. Riffing on data in a shared online space, with actual numbers and actual visualizations.

]]> By: Jamie http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/#comment-125470 Jamie Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:25:32 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/?p=674#comment-125470 Wouldn't this be more useful using percentage of GDP at the time instead of absolute dollar values? Wouldn’t this be more useful using percentage of GDP at the time instead of absolute dollar values?

]]> By: Notional Slurry » links for 2008-09-30 http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/#comment-125468 Notional Slurry » links for 2008-09-30 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:01:52 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/?p=674#comment-125468 [...] Socializing the analysis of the socialization of banking « Jon Udell "When Allen Noren pointed to this visualization of U.S. government bailouts, I wanted to tweak it by showing the magnitudes on a timeline. I found this data set on Many Eyes, updated it with the number $700B, and made this bubble chart:…" (tags: visualization graphics online tools collaboration crowdsourcing data-analysis knowledge management explanation proposal) [...] [...] Socializing the analysis of the socialization of banking « Jon Udell "When Allen Noren pointed to this visualization of U.S. government bailouts, I wanted to tweak it by showing the magnitudes on a timeline. I found this data set on Many Eyes, updated it with the number $700B, and made this bubble chart:…" (tags: visualization graphics online tools collaboration crowdsourcing data-analysis knowledge management explanation proposal) [...]

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/#comment-125466 Jon Udell Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:26:24 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/?p=674#comment-125466 > but can these objects end up infecting > my information stream? The security risk, if that's what you mean, is whatever risk attaches to the use of AJAX or Flash or Silverlight or any other kind of interaction that flows on the web. > but can these objects end up infecting
> my information stream?

The security risk, if that’s what you mean, is whatever risk attaches to the use of AJAX or Flash or Silverlight or any other kind of interaction that flows on the web.

]]> By: blogger » Blog Archive » Socializing the analysis of the socialization of banking http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/#comment-125465 blogger » Blog Archive » Socializing the analysis of the socialization of banking Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:31:40 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/?p=674#comment-125465 [...] Socializing the analysis of the socialization of banking When Allen Noren pointed to this visualization of U.S. government bailouts, I wanted to tweak it by showing the magnitudes on a timeline. I found this data set on Many Eyes, updated it with the number $700B, and made this bubble chart: Bailouts by year (Many Eyes) It was quick and easy to do that, and the […] [...] [...] Socializing the analysis of the socialization of banking When Allen Noren pointed to this visualization of U.S. government bailouts, I wanted to tweak it by showing the magnitudes on a timeline. I found this data set on Many Eyes, updated it with the number $700B, and made this bubble chart: Bailouts by year (Many Eyes) It was quick and easy to do that, and the […] [...]

]]> By: Tim http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/#comment-125461 Tim Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:27:42 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/?p=674#comment-125461 Are 'active objects' in a social environment yet another infection vector? Don't get me wrong - I'm definitely for sharing information, and if the numbers and charts can be refined collectively that would help 'mere mortals' with access to information - but can these objects end up infecting my information stream? Are ‘active objects’ in a social environment yet another infection vector?

Don’t get me wrong – I’m definitely for sharing information, and if the numbers and charts can be refined collectively that would help ‘mere mortals’ with access to information – but can these objects end up infecting my information stream?

]]> By: Visualizing the size of bailouts — The Endeavour http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/#comment-125459 Visualizing the size of bailouts — The Endeavour Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:06:25 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/?p=674#comment-125459 [...] his post for details of how the graph was made and a link to a larger image. ? [...] [...] his post for details of how the graph was made and a link to a larger image. ? [...]

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/#comment-125456 Jon Udell Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:02:30 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/?p=674#comment-125456 > Can iCharts (http://www.icharts.net/) > do what you want? Don't think so. Appears to be limited to bar/line charts. > Can iCharts (http://www.icharts.net/)
> do what you want?

Don’t think so. Appears to be limited to bar/line charts.

]]> By: Scott http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/09/29/socializing-the-analysis-of-the-socialization-of-banking/#comment-125455 Scott Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:45:33 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/?p=674#comment-125455 Can iCharts (http://www.icharts.net/) do what you want? If not, you may want to suggest it to them. Can iCharts (http://www.icharts.net/) do what you want? If not, you may want to suggest it to them.

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