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	<title>Comments on: Behind the scenes: podium training for men&#8217;s gymnastics in Beijing</title>
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		<title>By: Seeing more Olympics means seeing the Olympics differently &#171; Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-podium-training-for-mens-gymnastics-in-beijing/#comment-124924</link>
		<dc:creator>Seeing more Olympics means seeing the Olympics differently &#171; Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we&#8217;re not just seeing more sports, we&#8217;re seeing sports differently. The podium training for men&#8217;s gymnastics, for example, was a behind-the-scenes view that you&#8217;d never see on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we&#8217;re not just seeing more sports, we&#8217;re seeing sports differently. The podium training for men&#8217;s gymnastics, for example, was a behind-the-scenes view that you&#8217;d never see on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-podium-training-for-mens-gymnastics-in-beijing/#comment-124905</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; it seems to be WindowsMediaPlayer based

Might VLC be an option?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; it seems to be WindowsMediaPlayer based</p>
<p>Might VLC be an option?</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-podium-training-for-mens-gymnastics-in-beijing/#comment-124903</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 06:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me among the excluded parties, on two counts: OTA only, and I watch my media on a Ubuntu/MythTV box. I was hoping the non-Silverlight fallback might be flash-based, but it seems to be WindowsMediaPlayer based, instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me among the excluded parties, on two counts: OTA only, and I watch my media on a Ubuntu/MythTV box. I was hoping the non-Silverlight fallback might be flash-based, but it seems to be WindowsMediaPlayer based, instead.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-podium-training-for-mens-gymnastics-in-beijing/#comment-124887</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have u by any chance seen this site?
www.gymnastike.org  pretty sweet videos, i wonder if they would cover the olympics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have u by any chance seen this site?<br />
<a href="http://www.gymnastike.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.gymnastike.org</a>  pretty sweet videos, i wonder if they would cover the olympics?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-podium-training-for-mens-gymnastics-in-beijing/#comment-124883</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mac I&#039;ve had for some years now is a PPC model. So yeah, if that were my only computer, I&#039;d be feeling excluded too.

FWIW, I&#039;m told there is a non-Silverlight (Windows Media Player) version of the site, and that in theory you could decline the Silverlight option, use that version, and then (with Flip4Mac, http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv.htm) watch      the video that way. I haven&#039;t gotten this to work, but if anyone figures out a way, please do let us know.

As for the cable/satellite requirement, it&#039;s interesting. While it doesn&#039;t appear to have any teeth, if you&#039;d rather be truthful, and aren&#039;t a subscriber, and would actually pay something for access to the web video, it seems like that should be an option.

So OK, things aren&#039;t perfect. But wow, it&#039;s quite an experiment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mac I&#8217;ve had for some years now is a PPC model. So yeah, if that were my only computer, I&#8217;d be feeling excluded too.</p>
<p>FWIW, I&#8217;m told there is a non-Silverlight (Windows Media Player) version of the site, and that in theory you could decline the Silverlight option, use that version, and then (with Flip4Mac, <a href="http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv.htm)" rel="nofollow">http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv.htm)</a> watch      the video that way. I haven&#8217;t gotten this to work, but if anyone figures out a way, please do let us know.</p>
<p>As for the cable/satellite requirement, it&#8217;s interesting. While it doesn&#8217;t appear to have any teeth, if you&#8217;d rather be truthful, and aren&#8217;t a subscriber, and would actually pay something for access to the web video, it seems like that should be an option.</p>
<p>So OK, things aren&#8217;t perfect. But wow, it&#8217;s quite an experiment!</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-podium-training-for-mens-gymnastics-in-beijing/#comment-124882</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a HUGE fan of American gymnastics. Too bad Canadian fans are excluded from viewing any video from nbcolympics.com . Is there anyway the video can be viewed outside of the NBC website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a HUGE fan of American gymnastics. Too bad Canadian fans are excluded from viewing any video from nbcolympics.com . Is there anyway the video can be viewed outside of the NBC website?</p>
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		<title>By: orcmid</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-podium-training-for-mens-gymnastics-in-beijing/#comment-124881</link>
		<dc:creator>orcmid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got all excited about this, having not owned a television for 10 years and missing good Olympic coverage.  I even updated to Silverlight 2.0 (shocked to find it is still a beta but required), and then was skewered by the cable or satellite subscription requirement (my closest truthful option was to specify off-the-air local TV for my zip code).  

Bummer.  Ah well, lots of summer reading, writing, and Hulu watching to fill the void.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got all excited about this, having not owned a television for 10 years and missing good Olympic coverage.  I even updated to Silverlight 2.0 (shocked to find it is still a beta but required), and then was skewered by the cable or satellite subscription requirement (my closest truthful option was to specify off-the-air local TV for my zip code).  </p>
<p>Bummer.  Ah well, lots of summer reading, writing, and Hulu watching to fill the void.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-podium-training-for-mens-gymnastics-in-beijing/#comment-124880</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I&#039;m a member of another minority that is excluded:  I do not subscribe to cable or satellite TV, and so am not permitted to watch the Silverlight videos.  

I could probably lie...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;m a member of another minority that is excluded:  I do not subscribe to cable or satellite TV, and so am not permitted to watch the Silverlight videos.  </p>
<p>I could probably lie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Murray</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-podium-training-for-mens-gymnastics-in-beijing/#comment-124879</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I vent?  I wanted to try out the Silverlight-based video content, &lt;a href=&quot;http://dltj.org/article/lc-microsoft-silverlight/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;despite previous objections&lt;/a&gt;, but I&#039;m part of a minority that is being excluded:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Video is currently supported on the following browsers:

	Internet Explorer 6, 7 for Windows (Vista, XP SP2 or greater and 2003)
	Firefox 1.5, 2, 3 for Windows (Vista, XP SP2 or greater and 2003)
	Firefox 1.5, 2, 3 for Mac (OS 10.4.8 or greater, Intel only)
	Safari 2 &amp; 3 for Mac (OS 10.4.8 or greater, Intel only)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The minority that I&#039;m a part of is non-Intel Mac users.  Is the video a Silverlight2-only thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I vent?  I wanted to try out the Silverlight-based video content, <a href="http://dltj.org/article/lc-microsoft-silverlight/" rel="nofollow">despite previous objections</a>, but I&#8217;m part of a minority that is being excluded:</p>
<blockquote><p>Video is currently supported on the following browsers:</p>
<p>	Internet Explorer 6, 7 for Windows (Vista, XP SP2 or greater and 2003)<br />
	Firefox 1.5, 2, 3 for Windows (Vista, XP SP2 or greater and 2003)<br />
	Firefox 1.5, 2, 3 for Mac (OS 10.4.8 or greater, Intel only)<br />
	Safari 2 &amp; 3 for Mac (OS 10.4.8 or greater, Intel only)
</p></blockquote>
<p>The minority that I&#8217;m a part of is non-Intel Mac users.  Is the video a Silverlight2-only thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-podium-training-for-mens-gymnastics-in-beijing/#comment-124878</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent! I&#039;ll be fascinated to see what you come up with at http://08judo.com.

The time is certainly right for the crowdsourcing of coverage, where the crowd is divided into groups of expert observer/practioners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! I&#8217;ll be fascinated to see what you come up with at <a href="http://08judo.com" rel="nofollow">http://08judo.com</a>.</p>
<p>The time is certainly right for the crowdsourcing of coverage, where the crowd is divided into groups of expert observer/practioners.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-podium-training-for-mens-gymnastics-in-beijing/#comment-124875</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jon,
I know the frustration you feel. I am a Judo person and every 4 years the coverage of my sport is on the whole unsatisfying. I get bored with having the scoring system explained every 2 minutes while there is little expert knowledge being provided.
This games myself a few other Judo coaches setup a website to provide a little more depth, hopefully some of that will be comment on the extended coverage from NBC too.
Lance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jon,<br />
I know the frustration you feel. I am a Judo person and every 4 years the coverage of my sport is on the whole unsatisfying. I get bored with having the scoring system explained every 2 minutes while there is little expert knowledge being provided.<br />
This games myself a few other Judo coaches setup a website to provide a little more depth, hopefully some of that will be comment on the extended coverage from NBC too.<br />
Lance</p>
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