Comments on: Collaboration plus productivity http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/12/20/collaboration-plus-productivity/ Strategies for Internet citizens Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:22:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Hamish Harvey http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/12/20/collaboration-plus-productivity/#comment-112174 Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:00:59 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/collaboration-plus-productivity/#comment-112174 Doesn’t Groove provide transparent switching between online and offline (modulo conflicting edits when going back online)? So MS own the knowledge of how to do this well.

As soon as the concept of “file” leaks back in, something’s wrong IMO. I want to think about documents, versions of documents, and who has what type of access. I don’t want to think about “files” and “copies”.

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/12/20/collaboration-plus-productivity/#comment-109308 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:05:54 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/collaboration-plus-productivity/#comment-109308 “I will say that a scenario that would sync cloud to desktop (*cough* FeedSync) would go a long way in cleaning up scenarios”

Yes, but…

“As a programmer used to version control systems, I’d expect modern software to be aware of the state of local file copies”

And you the user are also necessarily aware of the fact that a) there are local copies, and b) what their status is.

]]> By: Tim Strehle http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/12/20/collaboration-plus-productivity/#comment-109188 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:23:43 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/collaboration-plus-productivity/#comment-109188 As a programmer used to version control systems, I’d expect modern software to be aware of the state of local file copies:
Are they in sync with the file on the server, are there local modifications which couldn’t be sent to the server so far, or is there a conflict?
(CVS knew how to do this 15 years ago…)
Whenever there’s a network connection, local modifications could/should be automatically committed to the server.

]]> By: Kip Kniskern http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/12/20/collaboration-plus-productivity/#comment-109109 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:10:50 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/collaboration-plus-productivity/#comment-109109 Hmm Jon.
I just tried it again, since you called me out. Here’s the steps I took:

Opened Word 2007 on Vista
Clicked on Open Office Live, signed in, nav to Documents folder, opened a file
Made a change, clicked on Save to Office Live, file was saved to the web
Unplugged the network cable on the back of my computer
Made another change in the doc, clicked on Save to Office Live
after some pause, the save to Vista>Documents dialog box opened, offering to save the doc locally.

Are we not on the same page, here?
Maybe you could get some clarification from Kirk Gregerson or someone else from Office Live Workspaces.

I will say that a scenario that would sync cloud to desktop (*cough* FeedSync) would go a long way in cleaning up scenarios like this when the network connection comes back on; as you say, now there are multiple versions stored in multiple places, not an ideal situation.

]]> By: cthrall http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/12/20/collaboration-plus-productivity/#comment-108827 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:25:30 +0000 http://jonudell.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/collaboration-plus-productivity/#comment-108827 I would look at Microsoft OneNote. I think it handles network failures in the manner you were describing: attempts to save to network, if that fails, silently saves it locally. When you re-establish your network connection, the doc is sync’d.

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