Comments on: Drizzly Dublin http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/11/19/drizzly-dublin/ Strategies for Internet citizens Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:45:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Gardner Campbell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/11/19/drizzly-dublin/#comment-89707 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:22:55 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/11/19/drizzly-dublin/#comment-89707 I can’t speak intelligently to SOAP vs. REST–maybe one day–but I must say that I love that Rilke book.

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/11/19/drizzly-dublin/#comment-88608 Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:54:02 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/11/19/drizzly-dublin/#comment-88608 “So too must we let go of SOAP v REST.”

Amen.

]]> By: Gunnar http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/11/19/drizzly-dublin/#comment-88602 Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:50:29 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/11/19/drizzly-dublin/#comment-88602 I find it ironic that two technologies that are supposed to be about interop want to vanquish each other. Rilke [1] says we need to let go of irony, and not be governed by it. So too must we let go of SOAP v REST. They actually can play nicely *together*, to wit the aforementioned Mark O’Neill gave a good “real world” Web services security talk last week at OWASP (at eBay where I believe these two *do* play nicely together in actual fact), in the case studies section he describes some security considerations for SOAP-Rest integration

http://www.owasp.org/index.php/7th_OWASP_AppSec_Conference_-_San_Jose_2007/Agenda

-Gunnar

[1] Rainer Maria Rilke:
Irony: Do not let yourself be governed by it, especially not in uncreative moments. In creative moments try to make use of it as one more means of grasping life. Cleanly used, it too is clean, and one need not be ashamed of it; and if you feel you are getting too familiar with it, if you fear this growing intimacy with it, then turn to great and serious objects, before which it becomes small and helpless. Seek the depth of things: thither irony never descends—and when you come thus close to the edge of greatness, test out at the same time whether this ironic attitude springs from a necessity of your nature. For under the influence of serious things either it will fall from you (if it is something fortuitous), or else it will (if it really innately belongs to you) strengthen into a stern instrument and take its place in the series of tools with which you will have to shape your art.

Letters to a Young Poet
(translated by M. D. Herter; quoted by Lawrence Weschler in Mr. Wilson’s Cabinet of Wonder)

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