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		<title>By: Kenzoid&#8217;s Autonomous Zone &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Vision of Students Today</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-127171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenzoid&#8217;s Autonomous Zone &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Vision of Students Today]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] link from Jon Udell, and something to defintely think about: A Vision of Students Today. (and, btw&#8230;the vision of [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Dale Pike dot net &#187; The once and future university « Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-127151</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dale Pike dot net &#187; The once and future university « Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The once and future university « Jon Udell: &#8220;As I scrubbed back and forth on the timeline looking for the part I remembered, my daughter — who was then between high school and college — watched over my shoulder. Eventually she said: ‘So, the students just sit there?’&#8221; [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: The once and future university « Jon Udell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The once and future university « Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mikecaulfield.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Damn kids these days…</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-124629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mikecaulfield.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Damn kids these days…]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] about a lot of these issues, more specifically, it got me thinking about Jon Udell&#8217;s post &#8220;The once and future university.&#8221; I actually find myself coming back to this post regularly when thinking about these issues, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about a lot of these issues, more specifically, it got me thinking about Jon Udell&#8217;s post &#8220;The once and future university.&#8221; I actually find myself coming back to this post regularly when thinking about these issues, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Damn kids these days&#8230; at bavatuesdays</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-124607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Damn kids these days&#8230; at bavatuesdays]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] about a lot of these issues, more specifically, it got me thinking about Jon Udell&#8217;s post &#8220;The once and future university.&#8221; I actually find myself coming back to this post regularly when thinking about these issues, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about a lot of these issues, more specifically, it got me thinking about Jon Udell&#8217;s post &#8220;The once and future university.&#8221; I actually find myself coming back to this post regularly when thinking about these issues, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bud Gibson</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-73417</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bud Gibson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jon, my observation is that you are a very engaged learner and seek things out.  My experience as a prof is that you have to create the compelling case for students to learn and focus their attention on you.  Many times, students are being pulled in multiple directions by things like needing to earn a living, raise a family, or attending to myriad other issues.

Well, the answer I have found is engaging them in the classroom (physical setting) and forcing them to engage, putting something of themselves on the line.  That usually involves getting them to present themselves at least once a week.

I tend to agree with your view that taking the stock parts of the course and choosing best of breed prepared materials (last year&#039;s lecture to use your example) is important so you can focus on the real value-added parts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, my observation is that you are a very engaged learner and seek things out.  My experience as a prof is that you have to create the compelling case for students to learn and focus their attention on you.  Many times, students are being pulled in multiple directions by things like needing to earn a living, raise a family, or attending to myriad other issues.</p>
<p>Well, the answer I have found is engaging them in the classroom (physical setting) and forcing them to engage, putting something of themselves on the line.  That usually involves getting them to present themselves at least once a week.</p>
<p>I tend to agree with your view that taking the stock parts of the course and choosing best of breed prepared materials (last year&#8217;s lecture to use your example) is important so you can focus on the real value-added parts.</p>
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		<title>By: The once and future university &#171; On Education &#38; eLearning</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-72801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The once and future university &#171; On Education &#38; eLearning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 300+ Students Survey Themselves &#171; Social Research Class Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-72799</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[300+ Students Survey Themselves &#171; Social Research Class Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: things to look at (October 17th - October 23rd) &#124; stimulant</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-71872</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[things to look at (October 17th - October 23rd) &#124; stimulant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The once and future university &#171; Jon Udell [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Rants, Raves, and Rhetoric v4 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; False Panacea</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-71633</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rants, Raves, and Rhetoric v4 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; False Panacea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] ran across Jon Udell&#8217;s post on The once and future university which pointed to Mike Caulfield&#8217;s post with the video [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Who Will Own the Search Experience? &#171; GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-70453</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Who Will Own the Search Experience? &#171; GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Here’s an example of orienteering from Jon Udell: [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: The university museums Life is grand</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-70392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The university museums Life is grand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I have never been to varsity or college but I found this post by Jon Udell fascinating. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: beTech :: Evolve Already</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-70337</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beTech :: Evolve Already]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Learning 2.0&lt;/strong&gt;



 If you&#8217;re interested in the evolution of the modern student, this video is worth three minutes of your time. Michael Wesch and his cultural anthropology students at Kansas State University just set the educational blogosphere on fire with thei...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Learning 2.0</strong></p>
<p> If you&#8217;re interested in the evolution of the modern student, this video is worth three minutes of your time. Michael Wesch and his cultural anthropology students at Kansas State University just set the educational blogosphere on fire with thei&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Argeropoulos</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-70290</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Argeropoulos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I loved going to school. I&#039;d have been a professional student if having to pay bills didn&#039;t get in the way.

Today I use my MP3 player for 90% lecture/interview style podcasts. My kids are hear all kinds of subjects while traveling in the car with me. I&#039;m sure they&#039;d rather just have music.

House painting, raking, walking to work, shoveling are all activities that used to be mostly waisted time in my book. Now I am able to put the time to extra good use.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved going to school. I&#8217;d have been a professional student if having to pay bills didn&#8217;t get in the way.</p>
<p>Today I use my MP3 player for 90% lecture/interview style podcasts. My kids are hear all kinds of subjects while traveling in the car with me. I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;d rather just have music.</p>
<p>House painting, raking, walking to work, shoveling are all activities that used to be mostly waisted time in my book. Now I am able to put the time to extra good use.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Jeffery</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/16/the-once-and-future-university/#comment-69997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham Jeffery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, arguably university has always been about access to social networks first and foremost, in that it gives students opportunities to do stuff in &#039;learning communities&#039; which might or might not have a relationship to the formal, taught curriculum. Or, as Bourdieu would put it, elite institutions give students access to a certain kind of cultural capital which stays with them for life. You&#039;re right though about the anachronism of the &#039;lecture&#039; as a format for teaching - unless it can be archived, backed up, and networked as it goes (for instance with students being able to go online and follow up key points during the lecture &#039;performance&#039;)  - I seriously wonder about its usefulness as a pedagogic form.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, arguably university has always been about access to social networks first and foremost, in that it gives students opportunities to do stuff in &#8216;learning communities&#8217; which might or might not have a relationship to the formal, taught curriculum. Or, as Bourdieu would put it, elite institutions give students access to a certain kind of cultural capital which stays with them for life. You&#8217;re right though about the anachronism of the &#8216;lecture&#8217; as a format for teaching &#8211; unless it can be archived, backed up, and networked as it goes (for instance with students being able to go online and follow up key points during the lecture &#8216;performance&#8217;)  &#8211; I seriously wonder about its usefulness as a pedagogic form.</p>
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