Comments on: Twitter and Facebook: It all depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/ Strategies for Internet citizens Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:47:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Columbus http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-123876 Sun, 25 May 2008 01:49:52 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-123876 To do anything truly worth doing, I must not stand back shivering and thinking of the cold and danger, but jump in with gusto and scramble through as well as I can.

]]> By: Curt Monash http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-122505 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:13:01 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-122505 Social networking services will need MUCH more flexible. Your example is one of the smaller ones, but illustrative even so. :)

http://www.texttechnologies.com/2008/02/09/scalable-twitter/ has a hardcore analysis.

CAM

]]> By: Dan Diephouse http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-73404 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:46:16 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-73404 Join my Facebook group protesting the requirement to have “is” in your status update!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11607655623

]]> By: Unevenly Distributed : Twitter and Facebook: It all depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is « Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-71596 Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:19:14 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-71596 [...] Twitter and Facebook: It all depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is « Jon Udell: “So what’s a post-modern epigrammatist to do? Write epigrams that play well in both venues? Optimize for one over the other? Convene a standards group to hammer out agreements about capitalization and the use of participles?” [...]

]]> By: And He Blogs » Who Is Jon Udell and Why Is He Following Me? http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-71522 Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:27:59 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-71522 [...] There was even this recent cryptic message from Jon that actually turned out to be a basis for a blog post. Jon being on Twitter is to me a good sign that it is an appropriate tool to be using in my work. I [...]

]]> By: Jim Yates http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-70069 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:41:27 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-70069 Simple solution. Configuration file so you can choose your word for stitching together non standard stuff. (for those who have too much time on their hands ;-) Perhaps Jon can use ‘evangelizes’.

]]> By: Martha http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-70061 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:02:09 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-70061 I think there’s another aspect to this. If you author tweets directly in Twitter (which a lot of people aren’t doing these days, opting instead for some third-party tool that sits in a browser panel or is a desktop client), you’ll see you’re actually answering the question “What are you doing?” If you answered that correctly, you actually *would* say “Thinking about how it all depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.” But, most Twitter users don’t seem to pay attention to that question anymore (if they ever did), even those of us who do tweet mainly from the the Twitter Web interface.

In part, that seems to be because when Twitter feeds tweets back to you, it doesn’t contextualize them that way. My page listing recent comments from all of my friends doesn’t preface each one with “Jon is” or “Martha is.” In the consumption of that content, the question becomes invisible and irrelevant.

There’s a way in which the Facebook app is taking Twitter’s instructions more seriously than Twitter is. It’s assuming that users are actually answering that question, in which case the “is” would make sense.

Which, would seem to suggest that the creators of the app are in a Twitter network where the users do respond to the actual question or they don’t fully understand how Twitter is being used.

Which is, of course, also interesting.

]]> By: Damon Kiesow http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-70019 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:14:40 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-70019 Jon -

This ‘is’ the first thing I learned to hate about Facebook. Because of it I tried to reverse the flow and export my FB status to Twitter, but that is even worse, giving you the full “Damon is” in the Twit.

So – now I am back to Twitter feeding FB – but I simply phrase my twits to allow for it. I have been doing this for a month or two – and they are not that bad gramatically speaking.

http://twitter.com/dkiesow

It is minor and constant irritant and is just another example of FB not really being as ‘open’ as they would like us to think they are. They should know better, but apparently their business model is more important than their customer service.

Damon

]]> By: Pascal Van Hecke - Daily Links » 2007 » October » 16 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69876 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:44:18 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69876 [...] Twitter and Facebook: It all depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is “lesson here for technologists who, like me, love to stitch services together: Just because we can doesn’t mean that we should. Facebook’s ‘is’ invites a mode of discourse that is importantly different from Twitter’s.” (tags: facebook twitter microblogging statusbroadcast statusupdate judell jonudell interoperability context) [...]

]]> By: Seth http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69717 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:47:25 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69717 Much like engtech, I’m exporting my Facebook status to Twitter to conserve energy and audience, but Jon is right, the “is” has to go so we’re not all third-person-spouting “twits” (pun intended).

http://www.mostlymuppet.com/archives/2007/08/17/how-to-make-your-facebook-status-appear-on-twitter/

]]> By: slim http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69585 Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:40:28 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69585 IMHO, it’s a bug in facebook. they should replace ‘is’ by ‘says’ (maybe adding double quotes also) and it will always be readable no matter what you “say”.

]]> By: engtech http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69572 Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:05:07 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69572 It’s pretty simple to generate twitter status from your facebook status feed, I wrote about it in august including a usability hack to address the ‘is’ using yahoo pipes:

http://internetducttape.com/2007/08/08/broadcast-facebook-status-rss-filter/

]]> By: Deepak http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69570 Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:39:20 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69570 I saw some of the more amusing Facebook status messages, e.g. xyz is tinyurl.com/1dh4, and decided that for my purposes, they two were best kept independent

]]> By: Sam http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69565 Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:29:22 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69565 Now that I’m using Facebook, I do find myself updating my GMail chat status using an ‘is’ more and more.

]]> By: Rogers Cadenhead http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69562 Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:04:59 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/15/twitter-and-facebook-it-all-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-word-is-is/#comment-69562 I can’t find your current email address, and there are two things I’d like to contact you about (one urgent, one not so much). Please send me an email. Thanks.

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