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	<title>Comments on: Will HeathVault help create a market for translucent medical records? I hope so.</title>
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		<title>By: Softitado</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/04/will-heathvault-help-create-a-market-for-translucent-medical-records-i-hope-so/#comment-126162</link>
		<dc:creator>Softitado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Хорошо пишете. Я бы конечно некоторые моменты оспорила, ну да ладно.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Хорошо пишете. Я бы конечно некоторые моменты оспорила, ну да ладно.</p>
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		<title>By: arriniquieSse</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/04/will-heathvault-help-create-a-market-for-translucent-medical-records-i-hope-so/#comment-126154</link>
		<dc:creator>arriniquieSse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Спасибочки! Буду теперь заходить на этот блог почаще!</description>
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		<title>By: Kolosov</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/04/will-heathvault-help-create-a-market-for-translucent-medical-records-i-hope-so/#comment-126142</link>
		<dc:creator>Kolosov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Действительно интерестно.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Действительно интерестно.</p>
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		<title>By: Unthinkability &#187; Archive &#187; Microsoft HealthVault: a bold, quiet launch?</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/04/will-heathvault-help-create-a-market-for-translucent-medical-records-i-hope-so/#comment-124125</link>
		<dc:creator>Unthinkability &#187; Archive &#187; Microsoft HealthVault: a bold, quiet launch?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A conversation with Sean Nolan, chief architect for HealthVault &#171; Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/04/will-heathvault-help-create-a-market-for-translucent-medical-records-i-hope-so/#comment-72593</link>
		<dc:creator>A conversation with Sean Nolan, chief architect for HealthVault &#171; Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] earlier items and commentary on HealthVault can be found here and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Howard Hilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Hilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google HUC(R) and look at Kleinke letter page 33 of 35</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google HUC(R) and look at Kleinke letter page 33 of 35</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Argeropoulos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Argeropoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed listening to this cast. 
I followed this cast up with Mike Platt&#039;s interview on ArCast http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=172624 Mike commented on the troubles with Halestorm and Passport being that people were not so willing to submit their private information to be stored at Microsoft. I immediately thought of HealthVault and now I have to listen to this show again to see if Peter covered that angle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed listening to this cast.<br />
I followed this cast up with Mike Platt&#8217;s interview on ArCast <a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=172624" rel="nofollow">http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=172624</a> Mike commented on the troubles with Halestorm and Passport being that people were not so willing to submit their private information to be stored at Microsoft. I immediately thought of HealthVault and now I have to listen to this show again to see if Peter covered that angle.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;would that be a workable starting point?&quot;

The fascinating and difficult challenge of translucency is: Which data are left in the clear to enable search, and which data are hidden until post-search decryption?

Or, as per Jeff Jonas&#039; work on ANNA (http://jeffjonas.typepad.com/jeff_jonas/2007/02/to_anonymize_or.html, http://jeffjonas.typepad.com/jeff_jonas/2006/03/advanced_analyt.html), which search- and match-enabling data are normalized, hashed, and then only ever revealed by compelled disclosure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;would that be a workable starting point?&#8221;</p>
<p>The fascinating and difficult challenge of translucency is: Which data are left in the clear to enable search, and which data are hidden until post-search decryption?</p>
<p>Or, as per Jeff Jonas&#8217; work on ANNA (<a href="http://jeffjonas.typepad.com/jeff_jonas/2007/02/to_anonymize_or.html" rel="nofollow">http://jeffjonas.typepad.com/jeff_jonas/2007/02/to_anonymize_or.html</a>, <a href="http://jeffjonas.typepad.com/jeff_jonas/2006/03/advanced_analyt.html)" rel="nofollow">http://jeffjonas.typepad.com/jeff_jonas/2006/03/advanced_analyt.html)</a>, which search- and match-enabling data are normalized, hashed, and then only ever revealed by compelled disclosure?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Lougee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Lougee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the health information began its life on my personal computer (as the patient or potential patient), and I were able to securely encrypt that information (although, would *any* encryption be secure enough?) on my personal computer, and then upload that encryped information to the &quot;centralized vault,&quot; would that be a workable starting point?

Of course the information would require my participation to de-encrypt it (not so great for an emergency-room scenario), but might otherwise be sensible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the health information began its life on my personal computer (as the patient or potential patient), and I were able to securely encrypt that information (although, would *any* encryption be secure enough?) on my personal computer, and then upload that encryped information to the &#8220;centralized vault,&#8221; would that be a workable starting point?</p>
<p>Of course the information would require my participation to de-encrypt it (not so great for an emergency-room scenario), but might otherwise be sensible?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Bobe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Bobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The risk of court orders (etc) demanding access to data, that Lauren Weinstein refers to has a name: &quot;compelled disclosure&quot;.  Useful for literature searches.


NCBI:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?term=compelled%20disclosure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The risk of court orders (etc) demanding access to data, that Lauren Weinstein refers to has a name: &#8220;compelled disclosure&#8221;.  Useful for literature searches.</p>
<p>NCBI:<br />
<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?term=compelled%20disclosure" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?term=compelled%20disclosure</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/10/04/will-heathvault-help-create-a-market-for-translucent-medical-records-i-hope-so/#comment-67895</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;web technology alone cannot solve distributed health records&quot;

Of course not. 

&quot;There is a tension between privacy and the emergency need to know that is entirely social and cannot be solved by encryption and biometrics or http.&quot;

Agreed. We are going to have to tread carefully through a thicket of incredibly thorny issues, and we&#039;re not going to emerge unscathed.

But unless you believe we should not go there at all -- and I don&#039;t -- we need to take some first steps. This is an important first step.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;web technology alone cannot solve distributed health records&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course not. </p>
<p>&#8220;There is a tension between privacy and the emergency need to know that is entirely social and cannot be solved by encryption and biometrics or http.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed. We are going to have to tread carefully through a thicket of incredibly thorny issues, and we&#8217;re not going to emerge unscathed.</p>
<p>But unless you believe we should not go there at all &#8212; and I don&#8217;t &#8212; we need to take some first steps. This is an important first step.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin.B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin.B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon

web technology alone cannot solve distributed health records.
Their is a tension between privacy and the emergency need to know that is entirely social and cannot be solved by encryption and biometrics or http.

Plus 

From: http://www.openehr.org/getting_started/t_openehr_primer.htm

Health Information Systems today suffer from a number of key problems:

    * lack of interoperability and vendor (M$?) lock-in;
    * cost and difficulty of maintenance, given the rate of change and sheer size of the information in the health domain;
    * lack of support for security, privacy and consent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon</p>
<p>web technology alone cannot solve distributed health records.<br />
Their is a tension between privacy and the emergency need to know that is entirely social and cannot be solved by encryption and biometrics or http.</p>
<p>Plus </p>
<p>From: <a href="http://www.openehr.org/getting_started/t_openehr_primer.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.openehr.org/getting_started/t_openehr_primer.htm</a></p>
<p>Health Information Systems today suffer from a number of key problems:</p>
<p>    * lack of interoperability and vendor (M$?) lock-in;<br />
    * cost and difficulty of maintenance, given the rate of change and sheer size of the information in the health domain;<br />
    * lack of support for security, privacy and consent.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Your personal health: Redmonds vault for health information &#187; business&#124;bytes&#124;genes&#124;molecules</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Your personal health: Redmonds vault for health information &#187; business&#124;bytes&#124;genes&#124;molecules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reading David&#8217;s first post Jon Udell Healthcare IT guy Microsoft, Google, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Deepak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deepak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon

I completely agree.  I am glad Google has not done anything yet, and my feeling is that the data ownership issue is a key reason why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon</p>
<p>I completely agree.  I am glad Google has not done anything yet, and my feeling is that the data ownership issue is a key reason why.</p>
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