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		<title>By: Trishp</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/08/03/old-tunes-new-opportunities/#comment-127165</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wrote a Parish Prayer to St Helen and the tune that settled beautifully to it was &quot;Ghost Riders in the Sky&quot; So how DOES one find out if a TUNE may be used/where do I look first? I found a site that said it was originally borrowed from a Civil War ditty, &quot;When Johnny comes Marchin&#039; Home&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a Parish Prayer to St Helen and the tune that settled beautifully to it was &#8220;Ghost Riders in the Sky&#8221; So how DOES one find out if a TUNE may be used/where do I look first? I found a site that said it was originally borrowed from a Civil War ditty, &#8220;When Johnny comes Marchin&#8217; Home&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell Icenogle</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/08/03/old-tunes-new-opportunities/#comment-46980</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darrell Icenogle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aren&#039;t you also struck by how much great music you can find on YouTube that is beyond the reach of publishers to control?  It&#039;s rather like an Open Source movement in music.  Doesn&#039;t music, like software, want to be free?

My guess is that with the track music publishers are on, first the Stones become irrelevant, but then so do the publishers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t you also struck by how much great music you can find on YouTube that is beyond the reach of publishers to control?  It&#8217;s rather like an Open Source movement in music.  Doesn&#8217;t music, like software, want to be free?</p>
<p>My guess is that with the track music publishers are on, first the Stones become irrelevant, but then so do the publishers.</p>
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		<title>By: Haris</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/08/03/old-tunes-new-opportunities/#comment-46433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Haris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 04:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out powertabs.net . I found that the software is quite useful for guitarist. There&#039;s a request form if you need a new tune.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out powertabs.net . I found that the software is quite useful for guitarist. There&#8217;s a request form if you need a new tune.</p>
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		<title>By: Piers Cawley</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/08/03/old-tunes-new-opportunities/#comment-46374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Piers Cawley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 23:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! I never expected to see a reference to Matt Seattle on this blog. In the UK, there are projects like the village music project (www.village-music-project.org.uk) which is putting an astonishing range of tunes from manuscripts dating back to the 17th century online. In the US, there are sites like the Max Hunter Folk Song Collection (http://maxhunter.missouristate.edu/) and the Wolf Folklore Collection (http://www.lyon.edu/wolfcollection/index.html) putting huge collections of recordings of folk singers from the Ozarks online, specifically stating that they&#039;re free to be used for private study. The Max Hunter recordings of Mrs Ollie Gilbert alone runs to 350 recordings, and she was a quite fabulous singer.

I&#039;ve written before about the dead hand of DRM and short sighted publishers (http://www.bofh.org.uk/articles/2005/10/23/stealing-culture) - these people need to be stopped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I never expected to see a reference to Matt Seattle on this blog. In the UK, there are projects like the village music project (www.village-music-project.org.uk) which is putting an astonishing range of tunes from manuscripts dating back to the 17th century online. In the US, there are sites like the Max Hunter Folk Song Collection (<a href="http://maxhunter.missouristate.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://maxhunter.missouristate.edu/</a>) and the Wolf Folklore Collection (<a href="http://www.lyon.edu/wolfcollection/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lyon.edu/wolfcollection/index.html</a>) putting huge collections of recordings of folk singers from the Ozarks online, specifically stating that they&#8217;re free to be used for private study. The Max Hunter recordings of Mrs Ollie Gilbert alone runs to 350 recordings, and she was a quite fabulous singer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written before about the dead hand of DRM and short sighted publishers (<a href="http://www.bofh.org.uk/articles/2005/10/23/stealing-culture" rel="nofollow">http://www.bofh.org.uk/articles/2005/10/23/stealing-culture</a>) &#8211; these people need to be stopped.</p>
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		<title>By: Old tunes, new opportunities « Jon Udell &#171; the Wordpress of Lucas Gonze</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/08/03/old-tunes-new-opportunities/#comment-46330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old tunes, new opportunities « Jon Udell &#171; the Wordpress of Lucas Gonze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 5th, 2007   Old tunes, new opportunities « Jon Udell As I watched and listened to all those different versions of The Tennessee Waltz, I couldn’t help [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 5th, 2007   Old tunes, new opportunities « Jon Udell As I watched and listened to all those different versions of The Tennessee Waltz, I couldn’t help [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Kilpatrick</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/08/03/old-tunes-new-opportunities/#comment-46207</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Kilpatrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Private study&#039; used to be and normally still is a legitimate loophole in music and other printed matter copyrights, allowing a student to photocopy a textbook, but not allowing a lecturer to make multiple copies (even if many do). Surely 99.9 per cent of internet tab/tutorial use is private study. Maybe a site could get round the future problems likely to be created by the biz, by having a sign-up agreement which stated that the content of the site is only to be used for private study. I don&#039;t know anyone, except mechanically inclined beginners, who will literally reproduce a guitar tab as a finished performance. By the time they get good enough to perform to others, they have normally made many changes of their own to the arrangement, either to simplify it or embellish it - consciously or otherwise. I guess in the rock-pop-metal world there are &#039;cover&#039; operators desperate to reproduce every nuance and noodle of a particular recorded solo (ignoring the twenty other ways it got played by the originator). But fingerstyle guitarists... we should be safe!

I also dig up old songs, often from 18th and 19th century music books. I enjoy collecting the books, which can be hard to find, and introducing people to things they have NEVER heard before. In one or two cases, I have successfully put old tunes and songs back into circulation after decades of neglect. A couple of my friends, Matt Seattle and Rob MacKillop, have put entire bodies of old music back into print after 200 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Private study&#8217; used to be and normally still is a legitimate loophole in music and other printed matter copyrights, allowing a student to photocopy a textbook, but not allowing a lecturer to make multiple copies (even if many do). Surely 99.9 per cent of internet tab/tutorial use is private study. Maybe a site could get round the future problems likely to be created by the biz, by having a sign-up agreement which stated that the content of the site is only to be used for private study. I don&#8217;t know anyone, except mechanically inclined beginners, who will literally reproduce a guitar tab as a finished performance. By the time they get good enough to perform to others, they have normally made many changes of their own to the arrangement, either to simplify it or embellish it &#8211; consciously or otherwise. I guess in the rock-pop-metal world there are &#8216;cover&#8217; operators desperate to reproduce every nuance and noodle of a particular recorded solo (ignoring the twenty other ways it got played by the originator). But fingerstyle guitarists&#8230; we should be safe!</p>
<p>I also dig up old songs, often from 18th and 19th century music books. I enjoy collecting the books, which can be hard to find, and introducing people to things they have NEVER heard before. In one or two cases, I have successfully put old tunes and songs back into circulation after decades of neglect. A couple of my friends, Matt Seattle and Rob MacKillop, have put entire bodies of old music back into print after 200 years.</p>
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		<title>By: phil shapiro</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/08/03/old-tunes-new-opportunities/#comment-45887</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phil shapiro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my favorite labor-of-love celebrations of out of copyright short American humor is Mister Ron&#039;s Basement podcast, by Ron Evry. 

    http://www.podcastdirectory.com/podcasts/875]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my favorite labor-of-love celebrations of out of copyright short American humor is Mister Ron&#8217;s Basement podcast, by Ron Evry. </p>
<p>    <a href="http://www.podcastdirectory.com/podcasts/875" rel="nofollow">http://www.podcastdirectory.com/podcasts/875</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Foley</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/08/03/old-tunes-new-opportunities/#comment-45643</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Foley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FWIW - I use The Tennessee Waltz to explain recursion to laypeople: &quot;I was dancin&#039; with my darlin&#039; to the Tennessee Waltz ....&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW &#8211; I use The Tennessee Waltz to explain recursion to laypeople: &#8220;I was dancin&#8217; with my darlin&#8217; to the Tennessee Waltz &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/08/03/old-tunes-new-opportunities/#comment-45631</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They Might Be Giants plays a great arrangement of &lt;a href=&quot;http://tmbw.net/wiki/Tippecanoe_And_Tyler_Too&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tippecanoe and Tyler Too&lt;/a&gt;, with lyrics lifted directly from the 1840 presidential campaign song.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They Might Be Giants plays a great arrangement of <a href="http://tmbw.net/wiki/Tippecanoe_And_Tyler_Too" rel="nofollow">Tippecanoe and Tyler Too</a>, with lyrics lifted directly from the 1840 presidential campaign song.</p>
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