Comments on: A conversation with John Shewchuk about BizTalk Services and the Internet Service Bus http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/ Strategies for Internet citizens Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:47:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: best http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-127189 Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:28:49 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-127189 It’s all about the ability to go P2P with connectivity and fluidity. Keep them lightweight and avoid any migration to a cloud-based infrastructure. Streamline the requirements and the end-result will have maximum usability.

]]> By: URI, XML, HTTP, REST, and the Azure Services Platform « Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-125735 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:21:07 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-125735 [...] thanks to Azure technology that I first told you about a year ago, back when it was known as the Internet Service Bus. Using it, Don and Chris created this endpoint in the [...]

]]> By: T1 Lines http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-122404 Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:02:41 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-122404 Its apparent through watching the video that the server side technology for the ESB, but I see potential conflict where the client side mirrors the technology currently running on the ESB. There would need to be dynamic configuration within the infrastructure to handle issues like this.
Mike – http://www.t1livewire.com/

]]> By: A day at the Wharton School « Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-76461 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:19:35 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-76461 [...] auditing. And I noted that in the Microsoft portfolio, the Windows Communication Foundation and the Internet Service Bus can provide that kind of [...]

]]> By: The peer-to-peer pendulum « Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-71971 Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:07:19 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-71971 [...] the cloud. But that service is a relay based on the Internet service bus technology discussed in my interview with John Shewchuk. On the other end of the relay is my notebook PC, running a service that listens for incoming [...]

]]> By: Mobility Day Zagreb 2007 - Damir Dobric Posts http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-60143 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:03:06 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-60143 [...] Service Bus paradigmhttp://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the…  The presentation can be downloaded here. Published Sep 10 2007, 09:02 AM by Damir Dobric [...]

]]> By: heinz roth http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-42904 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:26:49 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-42904 From browsing their website shortly and watching the video it’s my understanding that they only provide you with an existing service bus infrastructure on their end so that you don’t have to take care of that yourself. That’s nice if you just want to play around with an ESB which you don’t have to set up yourself but I don’t understand how that would take 100+ engineers from two (or more) companies already running their own service buses from setting up another shared one and they keep full control over their infrastructure and data … or am I missing something?

Besides that those applications talking to each other over organisational boundaries surely require more than just two new config files ;)

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-42698 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:08:32 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-42698 “can I easily get a URL for it that another user can access without touching my local copy?”

We can easily imagine that scenario w/respect to a file. Perhaps more interesting in this context is the case where you’re publishing a service. Here too we can imagine that you’ll have the option to replicate the infrastructure that supports that service up into the cloud…but that’s much harder to do, for a variety of reasons.

I’m guessing that for a class of services that are inherently lightweight, small-group, and transient, the ability to go P2P — with a nice set of guarantees about connectivity and security — could be really attractive. If those services need to become heavyweight, large-group, and persistent, then — but only then — do you migrate them to cloud-based infrastructure that meets those requirements.

]]> By: Christopher Galtenberg http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-42534 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:36:19 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-42534 I don’t know about the last paragraph. The less the web touches my computer (vs. the reverse), the better. As intuitive as the web is, I think my stance is equally intuitive. It’s security, it’s privacy, it’s legal protection, it’s the ability to have a local copy to work on without affecting the world, it’s the ability to standby/shutdown, and more… (Duplication is the cost, but the web thrives on duplication.)

So the question is, when I load/save a resource on my computer, e.g. a document or picture, and I opt to Share, can I easily get a URL for it that another user can access without touching my local copy (so ‘Share’ means: publish to something like S3)? And when I save changes locally, I’ll need a function to Update. That simple.

]]> By: Richie Carey | Web Application Developer » links for 2007-07-21 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-42196 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:21:11 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/07/20/a-conversation-with-john-shewchuk-about-biztalk-services-and-the-internet-service-bus/#comment-42196 [...] BizTalk Services and the Internet Service Bus Jon Udell’s conversation with John Shewchuk about BizTalk Services and the Internet Service Bus. (tags: biztalk esb isb podcasts) [...]

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