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		<title>By: leMel</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/06/06/building-conceptual-bridges-to-a-new-media-world/#comment-31393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leMel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Udell says: 
&quot;Hitting them over the head with a bewildering list of new skills foreign to them seems more likely to alienate than to inspire...It’s a scary chasm to cross. Among our new skills, we should include the ability to build conceptual bridges that help people cross it.&quot;


Not buying it [with all respect, puts money back in pocket].


Technical skills not learned in service OF something else (in this example journalism) will only end up in service TO something else (in this example, a foot-dragging community of practice).

Why should Mr/Ms. Uberskillz &#039;share&#039; what makes them valuable with foot-draggers? I see the benefit to the foot-draggers, but what&#039;s the benefit Ms. Uberskillz? It would be much better to give the technically skilled folks a better conceptual grounding, which technical training apparently doesn&#039;t. This puts them in the marketplace, which does much more to &#039;bring people along&#039; than any soapboxing or conceptual bridging ever could.

What do I mean?

Example: graphic design in the 1980s. There was a time when many highly succesful and well-respected design studios looked on the computer with disdain. &quot;Not a serious tool for design&quot; they said. They pointed to desktop publishing as an example of the mediocrity and lack of professionalism the PC seemed to spawn at that time. But as soon as a community of practitioners who were both technically skilled *and* conceptually grounded appeared in the late 80s/early 90s, the new landscape could no longer be derided. 

I see the pattern repeated here (and in many other fields).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Udell says:<br />
&#8220;Hitting them over the head with a bewildering list of new skills foreign to them seems more likely to alienate than to inspire&#8230;It’s a scary chasm to cross. Among our new skills, we should include the ability to build conceptual bridges that help people cross it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not buying it [with all respect, puts money back in pocket].</p>
<p>Technical skills not learned in service OF something else (in this example journalism) will only end up in service TO something else (in this example, a foot-dragging community of practice).</p>
<p>Why should Mr/Ms. Uberskillz &#8216;share&#8217; what makes them valuable with foot-draggers? I see the benefit to the foot-draggers, but what&#8217;s the benefit Ms. Uberskillz? It would be much better to give the technically skilled folks a better conceptual grounding, which technical training apparently doesn&#8217;t. This puts them in the marketplace, which does much more to &#8216;bring people along&#8217; than any soapboxing or conceptual bridging ever could.</p>
<p>What do I mean?</p>
<p>Example: graphic design in the 1980s. There was a time when many highly succesful and well-respected design studios looked on the computer with disdain. &#8220;Not a serious tool for design&#8221; they said. They pointed to desktop publishing as an example of the mediocrity and lack of professionalism the PC seemed to spawn at that time. But as soon as a community of practitioners who were both technically skilled *and* conceptually grounded appeared in the late 80s/early 90s, the new landscape could no longer be derided. </p>
<p>I see the pattern repeated here (and in many other fields).</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cubbison</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/06/06/building-conceptual-bridges-to-a-new-media-world/#comment-30459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Cubbison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right now, when a reporter posts directly to a blog, the reporter is taking care of the layout, paginating and headline writing. The reporter is absorbing many duties that copy editors absorbed from composing rooms. 

The newsroom will have general assignment reporters, where general assignment means being on the scene with digitial photos, video or web skills. And there will be a projects desk, where someone with a great visual sense will work with a writer and a database expert to produce long-form journalism. And there will be a technicians desk, where Friday night sports video is filed and edited, but I hope there is still room for the spontaneity of an individual journalist who sees something and can report on it in the best medium available without waiting for the next video editing clerk to get free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now, when a reporter posts directly to a blog, the reporter is taking care of the layout, paginating and headline writing. The reporter is absorbing many duties that copy editors absorbed from composing rooms. </p>
<p>The newsroom will have general assignment reporters, where general assignment means being on the scene with digitial photos, video or web skills. And there will be a projects desk, where someone with a great visual sense will work with a writer and a database expert to produce long-form journalism. And there will be a technicians desk, where Friday night sports video is filed and edited, but I hope there is still room for the spontaneity of an individual journalist who sees something and can report on it in the best medium available without waiting for the next video editing clerk to get free.</p>
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		<title>By: Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media &#187; Monday squibs</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/06/06/building-conceptual-bridges-to-a-new-media-world/#comment-30435</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media &#187; Monday squibs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Building conceptual bridges to a new media world. Interesting post by Jon Udell, prompted by Ryan Sholin&#8217;s work, that suggests it&#8217;s possible to take away some of the fear of and resistance to the demand for new media skills. Nice stuff in the comments, too. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Building conceptual bridges to a new media world. Interesting post by Jon Udell, prompted by Ryan Sholin&#8217;s work, that suggests it&#8217;s possible to take away some of the fear of and resistance to the demand for new media skills. Nice stuff in the comments, too. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Hedges</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/06/06/building-conceptual-bridges-to-a-new-media-world/#comment-29250</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reed Hedges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TV and radio journalists have technicians to manage the equipment and editing, why not web journalists?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TV and radio journalists have technicians to manage the equipment and editing, why not web journalists?</p>
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		<title>By: Trends: il rapporto fra nuovi e vecchi media &#124; Stalkk.ed</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/06/06/building-conceptual-bridges-to-a-new-media-world/#comment-28324</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trends: il rapporto fra nuovi e vecchi media &#124; Stalkk.ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] articolo dal titolo &#8220;Building conceptual bridges to a new media world&#8220;, scritto da Jon Udell sul suo blog, commenta invece il &#8220;Manifesto sul futuro dei [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] articolo dal titolo &#8220;Building conceptual bridges to a new media world&#8220;, scritto da Jon Udell sul suo blog, commenta invece il &#8220;Manifesto sul futuro dei [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sholin</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/06/06/building-conceptual-bridges-to-a-new-media-world/#comment-27025</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Sholin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course.  When it comes down to what we&#039;re moving forward with online, a lot of it is what I would call complementary content.  It&#039;s medium-appropriate stuff, multimedia and interactive.  Web teases print, print teases Web.  The paradigm-shift is here, but no one is talking about burning Mr. Notebook on a ceremonial altar.  We&#039;re going to be partying around bonfires and all, but the time for singing Kumbaya and holding hands about it has come and gone.  We&#039;re bleeding revenue and staff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course.  When it comes down to what we&#8217;re moving forward with online, a lot of it is what I would call complementary content.  It&#8217;s medium-appropriate stuff, multimedia and interactive.  Web teases print, print teases Web.  The paradigm-shift is here, but no one is talking about burning Mr. Notebook on a ceremonial altar.  We&#8217;re going to be partying around bonfires and all, but the time for singing Kumbaya and holding hands about it has come and gone.  We&#8217;re bleeding revenue and staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/06/06/building-conceptual-bridges-to-a-new-media-world/#comment-26965</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 11:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The layoffs are going to continue. Things are going to get worse before they get better.&quot;

Agreed.

&quot;Now is not the time for further handwringing; it’s the time to accept a few facts and get back to the business of informing the public...&quot;

Agreed.

All I&#039;m suggesting is that since there is, in fact, a major disruption associated with the acquisition of new skills and some very different ways of thinking, it will be helpful to find ways to identify and emphasize continuity where we can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The layoffs are going to continue. Things are going to get worse before they get better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now is not the time for further handwringing; it’s the time to accept a few facts and get back to the business of informing the public&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>All I&#8217;m suggesting is that since there is, in fact, a major disruption associated with the acquisition of new skills and some very different ways of thinking, it will be helpful to find ways to identify and emphasize continuity where we can.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sholin</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/06/06/building-conceptual-bridges-to-a-new-media-world/#comment-26884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Sholin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 05:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jon --

Here&#039;s my response to everyone who has asked &quot;But who&#039;s listening&quot;:  I work at newspaper.  I have friends who work at newspapers.  We get it.  We&#039;re working on it.  

Not everyone in the business gets it.  Not everyone in the business is working on it.  

Plenty of people are getting hit over the head with layoffs these days, but complaining about it doesn&#039;t change facts.  The layoffs are going to continue.  Things are going to get worse before they get better.  

But if you look at the work I point to in the 10th point on my list, you&#039;ll see that the training and the change and the adoption of new technologies is underway.  There&#039;s good work out there, and there&#039;s good work to be done.  Now is not the time for further handwringing; it&#039;s the time to accept a few facts and get back to the business of informing the public and changing the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jon &#8211;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my response to everyone who has asked &#8220;But who&#8217;s listening&#8221;:  I work at newspaper.  I have friends who work at newspapers.  We get it.  We&#8217;re working on it.  </p>
<p>Not everyone in the business gets it.  Not everyone in the business is working on it.  </p>
<p>Plenty of people are getting hit over the head with layoffs these days, but complaining about it doesn&#8217;t change facts.  The layoffs are going to continue.  Things are going to get worse before they get better.  </p>
<p>But if you look at the work I point to in the 10th point on my list, you&#8217;ll see that the training and the change and the adoption of new technologies is underway.  There&#8217;s good work out there, and there&#8217;s good work to be done.  Now is not the time for further handwringing; it&#8217;s the time to accept a few facts and get back to the business of informing the public and changing the world.</p>
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		<title>By: phil shapiro</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/06/06/building-conceptual-bridges-to-a-new-media-world/#comment-26773</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phil shapiro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To my mind, shipbuilders are well positioned to teach us about digital storytelling techniques.

http://storiesforchange.net/story/path_to_technology]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my mind, shipbuilders are well positioned to teach us about digital storytelling techniques.</p>
<p><a href="http://storiesforchange.net/story/path_to_technology" rel="nofollow">http://storiesforchange.net/story/path_to_technology</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doug K</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/06/06/building-conceptual-bridges-to-a-new-media-world/#comment-26412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this is a category error. Journalists don&#039;t currently know how to run a printing press, or a TV station, and why should they ? 
The technology and the business is changing, but the trade of journalism is not. The problem is one of funding journalists, not one of journalists needing to become programmers (especially and particularly not Flash programmers). 

See Lance Mannion&#039;s cogent analysis on how the business is changing,
http://lancemannion.typepad.com/lance_mannion/2007/06/one_and_a_half_.html

We need journalists&#039; skills more than ever before. From the BLS description:
&quot;News analysts, reporters, and correspondents gather information, prepare stories, and make broadcasts that inform us about local, State, national, and international events; present points of view on current issues; and report on the actions of public officials, corporate executives, interest groups, and others who exercise power.&quot;
The watchdogs of power have been co-opted into the power structures in Washington, with a few honorable exceptions. What&#039;s needed is to extricate them and let them do their jobs: whether in print, video, or online doesn&#039;t really matter as much as addressing the fundamental corruption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a category error. Journalists don&#8217;t currently know how to run a printing press, or a TV station, and why should they ?<br />
The technology and the business is changing, but the trade of journalism is not. The problem is one of funding journalists, not one of journalists needing to become programmers (especially and particularly not Flash programmers). </p>
<p>See Lance Mannion&#8217;s cogent analysis on how the business is changing,<br />
<a href="http://lancemannion.typepad.com/lance_mannion/2007/06/one_and_a_half_.html" rel="nofollow">http://lancemannion.typepad.com/lance_mannion/2007/06/one_and_a_half_.html</a></p>
<p>We need journalists&#8217; skills more than ever before. From the BLS description:<br />
&#8220;News analysts, reporters, and correspondents gather information, prepare stories, and make broadcasts that inform us about local, State, national, and international events; present points of view on current issues; and report on the actions of public officials, corporate executives, interest groups, and others who exercise power.&#8221;<br />
The watchdogs of power have been co-opted into the power structures in Washington, with a few honorable exceptions. What&#8217;s needed is to extricate them and let them do their jobs: whether in print, video, or online doesn&#8217;t really matter as much as addressing the fundamental corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Fry</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/06/06/building-conceptual-bridges-to-a-new-media-world/#comment-25830</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Fry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How true.  Some other examples of just making analogical sense are the shopping cart and the online invitation.  E-commerce sped up at a much greater rate when people could shop for multiple items at a time and be able to put things &quot;back on the shelf&quot; when they found something better or changed their minds.  Sending out invitations through Evite is a very easy way to gather up RSVP&#039;s and get a head count.  Both are really just tapping into what the population is already familiar with, and they worked.  I like your accelerator pedal example because it isn&#039;t as blatant, but makes perfect sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How true.  Some other examples of just making analogical sense are the shopping cart and the online invitation.  E-commerce sped up at a much greater rate when people could shop for multiple items at a time and be able to put things &#8220;back on the shelf&#8221; when they found something better or changed their minds.  Sending out invitations through Evite is a very easy way to gather up RSVP&#8217;s and get a head count.  Both are really just tapping into what the population is already familiar with, and they worked.  I like your accelerator pedal example because it isn&#8217;t as blatant, but makes perfect sense.</p>
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