Comments on: A conversation with John Lam about the dynamic language runtime, Silverlight, and Ruby http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/ Strategies for Internet citizens Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:47:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Silverlight at the end of the tunnel | Richard Hartley http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-185570 Mon, 26 Sep 2011 01:59:02 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-185570 [...] to build it from scratch. A brilliant move by Microsoft.There's also an interesting podcast where Jon Udell talks to John Lam (creator of Ruby CLR) about the DLR. On Channel 9, Tim Heuer did a video interview: MIX07: John Lam [...]

]]> By: Silverlight at the end of the tunnel http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-153866 Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:46:05 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-153866 [...] also an interesting podcast where Jon Udell talks to John Lam (creator of Ruby CLR) about the DLR. On Channel 9, Tim Heuer did a video interview: MIX07: John Lam [...]

]]> By: Silverlight (and Ruby on the .NET CLR) | eXpand yOur cReativity http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-123331 Tue, 06 May 2008 07:48:19 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-123331 [...] What all of this means is that there’s baked-in support for Ruby in what could be one of the biggest runtime environments on the Web in the next few years, and this can only be a good thing for Ruby. Jon Udell sat down with John Lam (the creator of RubyCLR) and talked about the DLR, Ruby, and how the whole caboodle works / will work. [...]

]]> By: eXpand yOur cReativity » Blog Archive » Silverlight (and Ruby on the .NET CLR) http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-122976 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:32:41 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-122976 [...] What all of this means is that there’s baked-in support for Ruby in what could be one of the biggest runtime environments on the Web in the next few years, and this can only be a good thing for Ruby. Jon Udell sat down with John Lam (the creator of RubyCLR) and talked about the DLR, Ruby, and how the whole caboodle works / will work. [...]

]]> By: Raphaël Valyi http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-122244 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:42:19 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-122244 “JavaScript arguably isn’t well suited to programming in the medium-to-large”
Oh yes? And guess why? M$ is arguably half responsible of this because of their arguably not very suited web browsers…
As for the other half, I should recognize that it’s simply inherent to the language been poor indeed.

]]> By: art’s abode » Ruby and Silverlight http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-84664 Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:08:36 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-84664 [...] John Lam (the RubyCLR developer) discusses DLR, ruby and Silverlight. [...]

]]> By: » My lunch with Ray Ozzie and Scott Guthrie | The Universal Desktop | ZDNet.com http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-19523 Tue, 22 May 2007 22:52:35 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-19523 [...] asked about the inclusion of the Dynamic Language Runtime, something Scott announced during his part of the keynote and something that garnered a bit of [...]

]]> By: Patrick Mueller http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-14257 Mon, 07 May 2007 15:51:28 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-14257 I just provided a bit of a rebuttal / posed some questions based on a sound bite from the podcast: http://www-03.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/pmuellr?entry=structured_javascript
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This is all great stuff; can’t wait to see and hear more about it.

]]> By: CodeFlow » Blog Archive » Silverlight http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13766 Sat, 05 May 2007 06:45:22 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13766 [...] of Silverlight, Microsoft is doing some open source scripting languages that run inside it (the Dynamic Language Runtime). They’ve already released some demos where they are running IronPython (Python) and Managed [...]

]]> By: Lee Kraus http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13624 Fri, 04 May 2007 12:32:31 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13624 very interesting.

]]> By: Open Parenthesis http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13478 Thu, 03 May 2007 17:49:56 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13478 Achieving Vendor Lock-In Through Open Source

There seems to be a renewed interest from proprietary software vendors in the use open source to create vendor lock in.
This week, add Microsoft’s Silverlight 1.1 and Dynamic Languages Runtime to the mix alongside Adobe’s Flex SDK.
Jeff G…

]]> By: Silverlight (and Ruby on the .NET CLR) http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13393 Thu, 03 May 2007 05:34:12 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13393 [...] What all of this means is that there’s baked-in support for Ruby in what could be one of the biggest runtime environments on the Web in the next few years, and this can only be a good thing for Ruby. Jon Udell sat down with John Lam (the creator of RubyCLR) and talked about the DLR, Ruby, and how the whole caboodle works / will work. [...]

]]> By: John C. Welch http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13249 Wed, 02 May 2007 15:38:52 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13249 Silverlight has an amazing potential, but honestly, I wish it was another company that owned it. Microsoft simply has too much baggage in the cross-platform area, things like Rotor, the PRFest that is Port 25, or going back a bit, Active X on !Microsoft.

They have regularly trotted out their “new attitude” towards interop, and it’s lasted a version, if that long, then all of a sudden, it’s a Windows – Only technology. Usually, after they’ve seen enough sales in the dev tools to know that changing to a competing tech would be more than a little painful. The problem today is, that the people who made these earlier decisions are still, for the most part, running MSFT. So while the tech is cool, I can’t really take it seriously as a “universal” RIA until I see regular updates for *all* supported platforms, and a few years of it being fully supported.

Given MSFT’s past and outside of one rather small business unit, its management’s continual hatred of !Microsoft, trusting Microsoft MS to not act according to type is, IMO, irresponsible at worst, unrealistic at best, especially considering that the current management team is the one that made the earlier decisions.

(And no, I don’t particularly think of Ray Ozzie as the guy that will drag Microsoft into a brave new world of interop. I think of him as the guy who foisted Notes on the world, and as someone who has tried to both use and support Notes, I’m not terribly impressed with the guy who created groupware best defined as something you do *to* people, not *for* people.)

]]> By: Jon Rowett’s Workblog » Links for Wed May 02 2007 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13214 Wed, 02 May 2007 10:26:34 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13214 [...] A conversation with John Lam about the dynamic language runtime, Silverlight, and RubyJohn Lam is the creator of RubyCLR (a bridge between Ruby and the .NET framework) who disappeared into the bowels of Microsoft a few months back. I’ll give this a listen when I get back from my holiday…[Tags: workblog podcast dynamiclanguages ruby] [...]

]]> By: People Over Process » Blog Archive » links for 2007-05-02 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13189 Wed, 02 May 2007 07:25:55 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/04/30/a-conversation-with-john-lam-about-the-dynamic-language-runtime-silverlight-and-ruby/#comment-13189 [...] A conversation with John Lam about the dynamic language runtime, Silverlight, and Ruby « Jon Udell On the CLR/DLR thingy in browsers. (tags: via:JamesGovernor dlr clr silverlight wpf/e browsers ria dynamiclanguages) [...]

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