Comments on: The essence of openness http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/ Strategies for Internet citizens Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:45:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: orcmid http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-30234 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 01:40:01 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-30234 OK, I finally started on the connection of collaboration and interoperability here: http://orcmid.com/blog/2007/06/interoperability-all-about.asp

]]> By: orcmid http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3250 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:48:40 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3250 Collaboration: “People working together in shared information spaces, using shared technical and social protocols, to achieve shared goals.”

I’m definitely going to quote you on this. It provides purpose to interoperabilty too. I like that.

]]> By: Gardner Writes » Blog Archive » Checkered with solitude http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3184 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:59:22 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3184 [...] 2. I have expanded a little on my thoughts above in this comment on Jon Udell’s recent blog post on “The essence of openness“: [...]

]]> By: Gardner http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3164 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:18:39 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3164 Collaboration exists at the boundary between self and other, between tribes (what’s a family but a small tribe?), and depends on both the boundary and the crossing to work. In my view, if we talk about erasing boundaries, we risk erasing selfhood and thus one element of true collaboration. Instead, we should talk about boundaries and crossings in the same breath, think them in the same thought. Maybe something like the idea of “semi-permeable” is what I’m trying to get at here.

Milton is all over this idea in “Paradise Lost.”

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3074 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:07:31 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3074 “in my post about an open source Twitter, I didn’t propose that anyone do anything”

Actually, what jumps out at me from that post on second reading is:

“If you play it out, the Twitter command line could evolve to be something much like the Unix command line, with an important difference, it’s world-wide in scope.”

Reminds me of Jon Aquino’s YubNub.org which…tap, tap…still exists!

http://www.yubnub.org

http://yubnub.org/documentation/describe_installation (the search box plugin)

http://yubnub.org/parser/parse?command=wp+dave_winer

http://yubnub.org/parser/parse?command=shoutcast+bluegrass

http://yubnub.org/parser/parse?command=weather+03431

http://yubnub.blogspot.com/

I love this idea. When it first appeared I worried that it was too geeky for broad appeal, and it probably still is. Something needs to take the concept mainstream. I wonder if Twitter, or something like it, will. That’d be excellent.

]]> By: Dave Winer http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3044 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:17:11 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3044 Another adjective for the last sentence — pro bono.

]]> By: Dave Winer http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3043 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:15:44 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3043 Hi John — in my post about an open source Twitter, I didn’t propose that anyone do anything, I was trying to find out if other people were thinking about this, and what they thought.

To me, these days, the only way I’d undertake such a project is as open source. I suppose it’s predictable for Dare to think it was about denying a vendor something, but I wasn’t thinking about any such thing, and went to great pains, in the first paragraph, to say how much I appreciated what the people at Obvious had developed (which, imho, was anything but obvious).

Open source is a way to ask people to contribute freely without worrying that they are unjustly enriching anyone else. It helps people relax about it. It also makes the project non-commercial, amateur, not professional, purely a labor of love.

]]> By: bentrem http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3033 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:31:52 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/29/the-essence-of-openness/#comment-3033 Tom Paine rolls over in his grave, the better to throw us an eye-lock, and calls out, “What took ya?!”

Know what? I have little more than scorn for my cohort … the once-were hippies I was on the bus with in ’68. But there kidz? The generation that’s working their way to the wrong end of 30? Woa … we must done something right somewhere. Effective, eye on the ball, a pragmatic sorta optimism … where did that come from? I wasn’t sure we deserved anything at all good, and yet …

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