Comments on: Like a moth to the Freebase flame http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/ Strategies for Internet citizens Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:59:11 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Motivating people to write the semantic web: A conversation with David Huynh about Parallax « Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-125086 Motivating people to write the semantic web: A conversation with David Huynh about Parallax « Jon Udell Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:22:21 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-125086 [...] His first project there, Parallax, creates a new way to browse Freebase, the structured wiki that also wowed me earlier last [...] [...] His first project there, Parallax, creates a new way to browse Freebase, the structured wiki that also wowed me earlier last [...]

]]> By: Nodalities » Blog Archive » Jamie Taylor Talks with Talis about Metaweb and Freebase http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-123135 Nodalities » Blog Archive » Jamie Taylor Talks with Talis about Metaweb and Freebase Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:04:07 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-123135 [...] alpha release, has already attracted the admiration of such commentators as Tim O’Reilly, Jon Udell, and OpenBusiness, Metaweb has the goal of ‘build[ing] a better infrastructure for the [...] [...] alpha release, has already attracted the admiration of such commentators as Tim O’Reilly, Jon Udell, and OpenBusiness, Metaweb has the goal of ‘build[ing] a better infrastructure for the [...]

]]> By: links for 2007-08-01 « Talkabout http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-44822 links for 2007-08-01 « Talkabout Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:31:53 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-44822 [...] Like a moth to the Freebase flame « Jon Udell “I wanted to create entries for some of my personal projects, such as LibraryLookup and elmcity.info, so I created a type called Project and added the properties Goal and Collaborators. That enabled me to add entries for my two personal projects, describe (tags: freebase judell semweb) [...] [...] Like a moth to the Freebase flame « Jon Udell “I wanted to create entries for some of my personal projects, such as LibraryLookup and elmcity.info, so I created a type called Project and added the properties Goal and Collaborators. That enabled me to add entries for my two personal projects, describe (tags: freebase judell semweb) [...]

]]> By: Matt McAlister » Freebase.com is hot http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-32226 Matt McAlister » Freebase.com is hot Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:30:20 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-32226 [...] Jon Udell: “Freebase is aptly named, I am drawn like a moth to its flame.” [...] [...] Jon Udell: “Freebase is aptly named, I am drawn like a moth to its flame.” [...]

]]> By: Freebase « Leader’s Digest http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-29312 Freebase « Leader’s Digest Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:20:34 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-29312 [...] time we sit up and take notice. It’s already attracted the attention of The New York Times, Jon Udell (Library Lookup), and Tim O’Reilly, who believes “the idea is HUGE”. Now [...] [...] time we sit up and take notice. It’s already attracted the attention of The New York Times, Jon Udell (Library Lookup), and Tim O’Reilly, who believes “the idea is HUGE”. Now [...]

]]> By: Nodalities http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-20752 Nodalities Mon, 28 May 2007 18:53:50 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-20752 <strong>Jamie Taylor Talks with Talis about Metaweb and Freebase</strong> In our latest Talking with Talis podcast, I talk with Semantic Web startup Metaweb's Minister of Information, Jamie Taylor. Best known for Freebase which, although only in limited alpha release, has already attracted the admiration of such commentato... Jamie Taylor Talks with Talis about Metaweb and Freebase

In our latest Talking with Talis podcast, I talk with Semantic Web startup Metaweb’s Minister of Information, Jamie Taylor. Best known for Freebase which, although only in limited alpha release, has already attracted the admiration of such commentato…

]]> By: Hilary http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-7659 Hilary Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:32:04 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-7659 More like "ontology design for the masses"... I'm wondering what effect things like Freebase will have on projects like Protege (http://protege.stanford.edu/) and what lessons Freebase can learn from things like Protege. Protege uses graphs extensively to represent relationships--would Freebase benefit from an alternate graph-based UI? I also found it informative to try translate Protege's Ontologies 101 (http://protege.stanford.edu/publications/ontology_development/ontology101-noy-mcguinness.html) tutorial into Freebase. The two are effectively different ways of doing the same thing. I'm most excited about the evolution of a query language for Freebase. Any thoughts about this? More like “ontology design for the masses”… I’m wondering what effect things like Freebase will have on projects like Protege (http://protege.stanford.edu/) and what lessons Freebase can learn from things like Protege. Protege uses graphs extensively to represent relationships–would Freebase benefit from an alternate graph-based UI?

I also found it informative to try translate Protege’s Ontologies 101 (http://protege.stanford.edu/publications/ontology_development/ontology101-noy-mcguinness.html) tutorial into Freebase. The two are effectively different ways of doing the same thing.

I’m most excited about the evolution of a query language for Freebase. Any thoughts about this?

]]> By: Freebase Buzz at Sims Learning Connections http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-4952 Freebase Buzz at Sims Learning Connections Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:52:20 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-4952 [...] Like a moth to the Freebase flame Jon Udell (26 March 2007) provides some insight into use cases and to what extent are the data [...] [...] Like a moth to the Freebase flame Jon Udell (26 March 2007) provides some insight into use cases and to what extent are the data [...]

]]> By: Some thoughts on the web as a filesystem « A Canvas for Thought http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-3231 Some thoughts on the web as a filesystem « A Canvas for Thought Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:03:42 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-3231 [...] Update: it looks like Jon Udell and the guys at Freebase are already dreaming along the same lines. [...] [...] Update: it looks like Jon Udell and the guys at Freebase are already dreaming along the same lines. [...]

]]> By: links for 2007-03-30 « Amy G. Dala http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-3199 links for 2007-03-30 « Amy G. Dala Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:37:32 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-3199 [...] Like a moth to the Freebase flame « Jon Udell (tags: semantic_web) [...] [...] Like a moth to the Freebase flame « Jon Udell (tags: semantic_web) [...]

]]> By: Bud Gibson http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-2732 Bud Gibson Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:30:52 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-2732 I agree with Dan Thomas and Thomas Passin. You've really hit the failure point of most semantic web efforts, and that is the need/desire to maintain consistent world views. Different world views are part of what drives the cultural diversity of the planet. Meaning is not unitary. I agree with Dan Thomas and Thomas Passin. You’ve really hit the failure point of most semantic web efforts, and that is the need/desire to maintain consistent world views. Different world views are part of what drives the cultural diversity of the planet. Meaning is not unitary.

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-2721 Jon Udell Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:41:53 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-2721 "how well they document (or teach through osmosis) how this sort of correction/elaboration/increase in specificity should happen between users." You've nailed it with "teach through osmosis." Wikipedia is a great example. Although it's notionally "easy" to maintain a wiki page, requiring "no knowledge of HTML," the fact is that Wikipedia editors have mastered all sorts of really complex syntax, which is in turn embedded in all sorts of really complex protocols. Understanding how such a community of practice bootstrapped itself will be crucial for Metaweb or any similar endeavor. “how well they document (or teach through osmosis) how this sort of correction/elaboration/increase in specificity should happen between users.”

You’ve nailed it with “teach through osmosis.” Wikipedia is a great example. Although it’s notionally “easy” to maintain a wiki page, requiring “no knowledge of HTML,” the fact is that Wikipedia editors have mastered all sorts of really complex syntax, which is in turn embedded in all sorts of really complex protocols. Understanding how such a community of practice bootstrapped itself will be crucial for Metaweb or any similar endeavor.

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-2713 Jon Udell Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:36:56 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-2713 "I would have expected your new url to go up and the old to go down" It's like golf, lower scores are better. But I agree that a different visualization might be better. “I would have expected your new url to go up and the old to go down”

It’s like golf, lower scores are better. But I agree that a different visualization might be better.

]]> By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Offsite links - during a break http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-2620 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Offsite links - during a break Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:30:11 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-2620 [...] Like a moth to the Freebase flame - by Jon Udell.  I haven’t had time to start loading up FreeBase - but I will. [...] [...] Like a moth to the Freebase flame – by Jon Udell.  I haven’t had time to start loading up FreeBase – but I will. [...]

]]> By: marius coomans http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-2579 marius coomans Wed, 28 Mar 2007 03:00:12 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/03/26/like-a-moth-to-the-freebase-flame/#comment-2579 Is the legend on that graph correct. I would have expected your new url to go up and the old to go down... Is the legend on that graph correct. I would have expected your new url to go up and the old to go down…

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