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		<title>By: All in a days work&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-42396</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[All in a days work&#8230;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] My first IronPython application The best of both worlds, I believe, is dynamic languages fully connected to common infrastructure. I’m not alone in thinking that, and the Python/.NET combo is not the only way to get there. IronPython will be compelling, opening up .NET to lots of folk [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My first IronPython application The best of both worlds, I believe, is dynamic languages fully connected to common infrastructure. I’m not alone in thinking that, and the Python/.NET combo is not the only way to get there. IronPython will be compelling, opening up .NET to lots of folk [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schinkel</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-1005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Schinkel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I guess there are lots of ways. In my case, I’m using the simple single-threaded webservers that are built into the frameworks as mentioned above.&quot;

Thanks for the reply.  Does that mean you are *not* using IIS?  If not, does that mean you are *just* using (System.Net.HttpListener) and XML facilities (System.Xml)?  

If so, any chance you could publish a blog post about a simple &quot;Hello World&quot; IronPython example complete with a ready-to-roll download and an explanation as to how to get it up and running, and anything one would need to turn off or configure to make it work on both XP and 2003 Server?  I&#039;d be very grateful....

P.S Hey, your blog needs a Jon Udel favicon instead of the generic WordPress one! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I guess there are lots of ways. In my case, I’m using the simple single-threaded webservers that are built into the frameworks as mentioned above.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply.  Does that mean you are *not* using IIS?  If not, does that mean you are *just* using (System.Net.HttpListener) and XML facilities (System.Xml)?  </p>
<p>If so, any chance you could publish a blog post about a simple &#8220;Hello World&#8221; IronPython example complete with a ready-to-roll download and an explanation as to how to get it up and running, and anything one would need to turn off or configure to make it work on both XP and 2003 Server?  I&#8217;d be very grateful&#8230;.</p>
<p>P.S Hey, your blog needs a Jon Udel favicon instead of the generic WordPress one! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-977</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Did you use ActiveState for CPython?&quot;

Yes.

&quot;How are you getting around not having to use file extensions on your URLs?&quot;

I guess there are lots of ways. In my case, I&#039;m using the simple single-threaded webservers that are built into the frameworks as mentioned above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Did you use ActiveState for CPython?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>&#8220;How are you getting around not having to use file extensions on your URLs?&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess there are lots of ways. In my case, I&#8217;m using the simple single-threaded webservers that are built into the frameworks as mentioned above.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schinkel</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Schinkel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jon:  What I&#039;d REALLY like to hear about is how you set up both CPython and IronPython on Windows 2003 Server. Did you use ActiveState for CPython, or something else?  On IIS, or Apache?  What about IronPython?  On IIS?  If so, how are you getting around not having to use file extensions on your URLs?

Please address this!  It&#039;s the one thing keeping me from trying out both CPython and IronPythin for web programming...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon:  What I&#8217;d REALLY like to hear about is how you set up both CPython and IronPython on Windows 2003 Server. Did you use ActiveState for CPython, or something else?  On IIS, or Apache?  What about IronPython?  On IIS?  If so, how are you getting around not having to use file extensions on your URLs?</p>
<p>Please address this!  It&#8217;s the one thing keeping me from trying out both CPython and IronPythin for web programming&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: www.nickhodge.com &#124; mungenet &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Professional Geek Goes Seattle, WA.</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[www.nickhodge.com &#124; mungenet &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Professional Geek Goes Seattle, WA.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] this is the&#160;IronPython project. I have yet to get some cycles to pump out&#160;a project like Jon Udell. Or maybe I&#8217;ll go down the Ruby route thanks to some smart guys in Queensland, Australia: [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this is the&nbsp;IronPython project. I have yet to get some cycles to pump out&nbsp;a project like Jon Udell. Or maybe I&#8217;ll go down the Ruby route thanks to some smart guys in Queensland, Australia: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brainpeel 2007-02-09 &#187; Tri Nguyen</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainpeel 2007-02-09 &#187; Tri Nguyen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;you might also enjoy looking at Vista Smalltalk&quot;

James Governor pointed me to that. It&#039;s a jaw-dropper!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you might also enjoy looking at Vista Smalltalk&#8221;</p>
<p>James Governor pointed me to that. It&#8217;s a jaw-dropper!</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you like dynamic languages on .NET, you might also enjoy looking at Vista Smalltalk which runs on .NET servers and displays in WPF/e. It includes Lisp as well.

Peter Fisk&#039;s blog entries have working demos of his work in progress. These include using a class browser to edit classes in the IE browser. He provides screenshots of each example of his development to date as well as commentaries on why dynamic languages will fill an important gap in development tools on top of WPF &amp; .NET.
http://vistasmalltalk.wordpress.com/2007/01/28/xaml-to-wpf-to-lisp/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you like dynamic languages on .NET, you might also enjoy looking at Vista Smalltalk which runs on .NET servers and displays in WPF/e. It includes Lisp as well.</p>
<p>Peter Fisk&#8217;s blog entries have working demos of his work in progress. These include using a class browser to edit classes in the IE browser. He provides screenshots of each example of his development to date as well as commentaries on why dynamic languages will fill an important gap in development tools on top of WPF &amp; .NET.<br />
<a href="http://vistasmalltalk.wordpress.com/2007/01/28/xaml-to-wpf-to-lisp/" rel="nofollow">http://vistasmalltalk.wordpress.com/2007/01/28/xaml-to-wpf-to-lisp/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Foord</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Foord]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At work we use IronPython. We have needed to access unmanaged code - which requires attributes, so we&#039;ve had to write stub classes in C#.

What I&#039;d love to do is automate the generation of these &#039;stub classes&#039;, using the Reflection.Emit API - I haven&#039;t had the time to do this yet, but I&#039;ll get to it sometime...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At work we use IronPython. We have needed to access unmanaged code &#8211; which requires attributes, so we&#8217;ve had to write stub classes in C#.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d love to do is automate the generation of these &#8216;stub classes&#8217;, using the Reflection.Emit API &#8211; I haven&#8217;t had the time to do this yet, but I&#8217;ll get to it sometime&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Gilmartin</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Gilmartin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the same reasons I think a scripting language on top of Java gives you a great development environment. There is the productivity of the scripting language. The rich and highly consistent set of Java class and frameworks from Sun and others. Clear performance enhancement route: Scripting to Java to C++. And easy distribution because of jar portability and the Java Web Start stuff. Having great implementations of JavaScript (Rhino), Python (Jython), and soon Ruby (JRuby) and Sun&#039;s commitment to supporting scripting languages will, I hope, encourage more people to adopt this hybrid environment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the same reasons I think a scripting language on top of Java gives you a great development environment. There is the productivity of the scripting language. The rich and highly consistent set of Java class and frameworks from Sun and others. Clear performance enhancement route: Scripting to Java to C++. And easy distribution because of jar portability and the Java Web Start stuff. Having great implementations of JavaScript (Rhino), Python (Jython), and soon Ruby (JRuby) and Sun&#8217;s commitment to supporting scripting languages will, I hope, encourage more people to adopt this hybrid environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Maybe you should try Boo language then&quot;

Maybe I should. Is there a recipe (http://boo.codehaus.org/Recipes) for working with Indigo?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe you should try Boo language then&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe I should. Is there a recipe (<a href="http://boo.codehaus.org/Recipes" rel="nofollow">http://boo.codehaus.org/Recipes</a>) for working with Indigo?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;does this new .NET stuff now make that approach obsolete or just old fashioned?&quot;

Neither, I don&#039;t think. Mark&#039;s stuff is brilliant and will continue to do what it does for a very long time. From your perspective I guess it&#039;d be a case of, as and when parts of the Framework become compelling, for one reason or another, then you&#039;d like to be able to access them from Python.

Actually I&#039;d be interested to hear from you which parts of the Framework are appealing. Obviously it is a big tent. Most of the IronPython examples so far are in the rich-client domain, where there&#039;s actually a better story about integration between IronPython and the Framework than there currently is in the services domain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;does this new .NET stuff now make that approach obsolete or just old fashioned?&#8221;</p>
<p>Neither, I don&#8217;t think. Mark&#8217;s stuff is brilliant and will continue to do what it does for a very long time. From your perspective I guess it&#8217;d be a case of, as and when parts of the Framework become compelling, for one reason or another, then you&#8217;d like to be able to access them from Python.</p>
<p>Actually I&#8217;d be interested to hear from you which parts of the Framework are appealing. Obviously it is a big tent. Most of the IronPython examples so far are in the rich-client domain, where there&#8217;s actually a better story about integration between IronPython and the Framework than there currently is in the services domain.</p>
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		<title>By: Cedric Vivier</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cedric Vivier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi!

Maybe you should try Boo language then, it is a .NET/CLR language with a Python-inspired syntax too, but in the contrary of IronPython, Boo supports pretty much everything in .NET (except unsafe code) : attributes, delegates, generics, etc :)

http://boo.codehaus.org/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>Maybe you should try Boo language then, it is a .NET/CLR language with a Python-inspired syntax too, but in the contrary of IronPython, Boo supports pretty much everything in .NET (except unsafe code) : attributes, delegates, generics, etc :)</p>
<p><a href="http://boo.codehaus.org/" rel="nofollow">http://boo.codehaus.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gavin.B</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/02/08/my-first-ironpython-application/#comment-591</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gavin.B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I scripted some lightweight utilities for WinXp using ActivePython 2.4 plus Mark Hammond&#039;s win32 API:-
In your experience Jon, does this new .NET stuff now make that approach obsolete or just old fashioned?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I scripted some lightweight utilities for WinXp using ActivePython 2.4 plus Mark Hammond&#8217;s win32 API:-<br />
In your experience Jon, does this new .NET stuff now make that approach obsolete or just old fashioned?</p>
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