Comments on: A screencast about common feeds in Vista http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/ Strategies for Internet citizens Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:22:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Screencast: Exploring Vista’s common feed system — OPML, RSS and integration in IE 7 and Office — Our Latest Discovery http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-124316 Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:42:39 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-124316 [...] Jon Udell’s screencast explores Vista’s common feed system. [...]

]]> By: Authenticated RSS feeds « Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-2708 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:33:51 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-2708 [...] 2007 is set up to work autonomously rather than to use the common feed store. Here’s a screencast that shows IE7 and Outlook 2007 interacting with the common feed store, as well as Outlook 2007 [...]

]]> By: jon http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-1105 Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:35:46 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-1105 Your screencast about “common feeds in Vista” is great, but would be greater if OutLook 2007 was included in Vista Home Premium and not a $400 extra. How about discussing what can be done with feeds using just the OEM VHP on a typical new machine?

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-726 Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:20:17 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-726 “I think the screencast is great but the one thing that I did not like is the idea that the OS should manage all my feeds.”

In fact it doesn’t have to. As is shown in the screencast, Outlook can either use the common feed system or manage its own feeds separately.

]]> By: Tonetheman http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-722 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:31:38 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-722 I think the screencast is great but the one thing that I did not like is the idea that the OS should manage all my feeds. This seems like overkill to me and more an MS attempt to take something that should not be at the OS level and attempt to make it so. The concept of having one spot to go to on an OS for all your feeds is interesting but I am not sure I trust the implementation… I am being paranoid I guess.

]]> By: Vista - Will it Increase Feed Reading? | Latent Semantic Indexing http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-348 Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:37:16 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-348 [...] of his most recent delves into the way Microsoft’s Windows Vista OS RSS system. Udell notes: I am intensely [...]

]]> By: Mike Schinkel http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-340 Thu, 25 Jan 2007 04:46:22 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-340 Jon, when you say “I am intensely interested in the reasons why people do or don’t take to the notion of reading RSS feeds” what exactly do you mean? With an RSS reader, or using an RSS-to-email forwarder like [1]? For me, I almost never make to read my FeedDemon because I get so buried with email in my inbox, and when I do open FeedDemon I don’t know where to start.

But for feeds I really want to read, like yours, I use [1] to get them to show up in my email inbox where I’ll be sure to see them. Of course, I can’t read many this way so consider your blog special. :)

[1] http://www.rssfwd.com

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-337 Thu, 25 Jan 2007 02:36:59 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-337 “Import/Export OPML to the common feed list”

Ah. Thanks, Joshua.

]]> By: Joshua Allen [MSFT] http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-335 Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:18:13 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-335 Import/Export OPML to the common feed list:
http://blogs.msdn.com/rssteam/archive/2006/10/08/Saving-and-loading-feed-lists-in-IE7-using-OPML.aspx

I did a little post about Vista RSS platform as well, since it seems some reviewers missed one of the cool reasons for having it platformized:
http://www.netcrucible.com/blog/2007/01/24/should-firefox-support-vista-rss/

]]> By: Kevin http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-321 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:12:01 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-321 [Responding to the video, not the post]

I think the separate pools or repositories of feeds might be a feature not a bug. I don’t want to read all my feeds in every tool I use — I’d like to choose tactically what feeds I see in a variety of readers. If I’m receiving administration/monitoring/work related info via RSS/Atom, I might want that to flow into my work in box or a desk-top gadget. My personal feeds should probably live outside the firewall and corporate computing resources.

There might be some overlap between my feed lists, though, and a synchronization system that tracks the feed items I read between readers would be nice. I think the NewsGator folks offer that service amongst their tools??

]]> By: A screencast about common feeds in Vista » Enterprise 2.0 and web 2.0 resources http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-320 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:02:17 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-320 [...] Udell just posted a screencast which explores Vista’s common feed system. John is intensely interested in the reasons why people [...]

]]> By: Jaap Steinvoorte http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-319 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:47:53 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-319 I’m an extensive user of RSS feeds, over 800 feeds now. I need this information for my work. First I was a beta tester for Windows Live, for a while it worked. Then I began to use Internet explorer 7 for my feeds. After that I started using Outlook 2007. I like the idea of RSS, just screen the headlines, whenever you want. Now the problems:
1. Windows Live, it is not visible when there is a new post in the feed, I want to see a highlighted entry
2. Internet Explorer 7, I can see the new posts because the feed is highlighted, but… I’m not able to categorize my feeds
3. Outlook 2007, better than Windows Live and IE, It lets me categorize, and what I also like, it lets me create a new folder where I can drop all posts that I mark as important, of mark as unread.
(4) UniveRSS, the 3D RSS aggregator for Windows Vista, it is cool! but not suitable for my needs.
(5) the RSS sidebar gadget, looks nice, but with so many, frequently updated RSS feeds I have, it is nothing more than a gadget, it adds no value for me.
Now the bad news, I want to be able to view only the feeds with an unread post, and I want to check my feeds wherever I am, without my personal laptop.
I disagree with Hugh for now. When I show people the benefits of RSS, and show them Windows Live, IE 7.0 and Outlook 2007, a couple of days after that te come along to show me what they have created in Windows Live, the list of feeds they added in IE 7 or the OPML files they imported in Outlook. I have to say, those people are colleagues or customers and mainly the so called information workers.
Finally, I’m a Microsoft adept, where possible I use the products and customize it for my needs. But sometimes, i need some 3rd party tools, tools that I don’t advice to my customers and colleagues (sorry but Google reader suits my needs) I hope, in the not so far future, Microsoft will deliver a tool where I can work with

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-318 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:39:14 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-318 “it solves a problem only certain people have, which is how to increase the info delivery from the net. Many people seem to want to decrease info delivery”

True, and here’s why. Over the past decade we’ve opened up a whole flock of new communication modes that human beings lived without for ten thousand years. Eventually we’ll come to understand them as natural extensions to what we’ve always done, but that’s not how it feels now. The new communication environment seems (and is) highly artificial and contrived, and colonizing it feels like (and is) hard work for uncertain reward.

When this stuff works well for me, though, it works in terms of metaphors that make sense to everyone. Blogging is storytelling, and we can all relate to the value of narrative. Feed-reading is like listening to a bunch of conversations at a party. You can’t hear everything at once, and you wouldn’t want to, but when you tune into certain conversations you simultaneously form relationships and acquire informational filters.

It’s all very natural, really, but it’s hard to convey how and why that’s so. And of course you’re right, in an environment so dominated by the need to deflect demands for attention and noisy low-value interaction, it’s hard to notice strategies that enhance voluntary attention and thoughtful high-value interaction.

]]> By: Andrew Eick http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-317 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:37:20 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-317 I think a counter argument to this might be made. RSS increases your mental space by allowing you to bypass “going to each site to see what’s new.” My friend (also an information junkie) will read 2-3 online newspapers, going to each site along the way.

Although savvy (she worked on an SGML publishing engine back in the day), she does not see the benefits of RSS warrant YAUP (yet another username / password or desktop aggregator install).

And there is also the argument that “you stumble on newspaper article” that wouldn’t appear in your feeds by browsing the newspaper sites directly and therefore enrich your periphery knowledge.

]]> By: Duncan http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-316 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:36:07 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/23/a-screencast-about-common-feeds-in-vista/#comment-316 The sound playback doesn’t work on Linux for me, the sound is really static-y. All your previous screencasts worked fine, though.

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