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		<title>By: Mind, hands, and heart: John Leeke on Internet video for sharing knowledge about historic home preservation &#171; Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/15/ambient-video-awareness-and-visible-conversations/#comment-126032</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mind, hands, and heart: John Leeke on Internet video for sharing knowledge about historic home preservation &#171; Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] We got introduced by way of the folks at the Open University, whom I met when I visited the UK in January 2007 to [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Excellent debate visualizer at NYTimes.com &#171; Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/15/ambient-video-awareness-and-visible-conversations/#comment-96580</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Excellent debate visualizer at NYTimes.com &#171; Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] But the Transcript Analyzer takes the game to a new level. Or at least, one that I haven&#8217;t seen before in a mainstream publication. The entire conversation is chunked and can be visualized in several ways. It&#8217;s reminiscent of the Open University&#8217;s FlashMeeting technology which I mentioned here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But the Transcript Analyzer takes the game to a new level. Or at least, one that I haven&#8217;t seen before in a mainstream publication. The entire conversation is chunked and can be visualized in several ways. It&#8217;s reminiscent of the Open University&#8217;s FlashMeeting technology which I mentioned here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sitemaps, segmentation, and streaming &#171; Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/15/ambient-video-awareness-and-visible-conversations/#comment-30837</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sitemaps, segmentation, and streaming &#171; Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] hardest part, of course, is the data preparation. On my trip to the UK in January I mentioned the Open University&#8217;s FlashMeeting system which does a great job of segmenting captured video [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hardest part, of course, is the data preparation. On my trip to the UK in January I mentioned the Open University&#8217;s FlashMeeting system which does a great job of segmenting captured video [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/15/ambient-video-awareness-and-visible-conversations/#comment-5134</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed this article. Distributed teams in my line-of-work are very common. I am a software developer and now work from home and often wish I had something like hexagon to use to sync-up with other developers that are working in the same (broad) areas as I. It could be tremendously valuable even if the group of developers were not working for the same company. Here are a few things that are in my opinion value-added to the process:

1. Motivation. I work in a room with one window all-day and often all-night to meet deliverable deadlines. Let&#039;s face it. If you are any kind of social creature you would be motivated in an office setting because everyone else is working also. A virtual cam-based implementation would definitely help me IMO.

2. Support. I&#039;ve been in the situation where I was deadlocked on an issue and even the people I worked with had no solutions. This happens very often when using new/cutting edge technologies where docs are sparse. Instead of having to wait for a posted request on a forum or mailing list I could ask someone right now and hopefully find someone in the group who could offer at least some sort of assistance and vice-versa.

I understand many people&#039;s view of the lack of privacy with this type setup. However, the way I look at it I could either a) have an employer who REQUIRED it which would not be as favorable as voluntary IMO. b) I could be working in a office somewhere. c) it doesn&#039;t have to be something you are forced to camp-out all day. This scenario would only apply to those individuals who would find it favorable.


Ryan
http://mindonstatic.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this article. Distributed teams in my line-of-work are very common. I am a software developer and now work from home and often wish I had something like hexagon to use to sync-up with other developers that are working in the same (broad) areas as I. It could be tremendously valuable even if the group of developers were not working for the same company. Here are a few things that are in my opinion value-added to the process:</p>
<p>1. Motivation. I work in a room with one window all-day and often all-night to meet deliverable deadlines. Let&#8217;s face it. If you are any kind of social creature you would be motivated in an office setting because everyone else is working also. A virtual cam-based implementation would definitely help me IMO.</p>
<p>2. Support. I&#8217;ve been in the situation where I was deadlocked on an issue and even the people I worked with had no solutions. This happens very often when using new/cutting edge technologies where docs are sparse. Instead of having to wait for a posted request on a forum or mailing list I could ask someone right now and hopefully find someone in the group who could offer at least some sort of assistance and vice-versa.</p>
<p>I understand many people&#8217;s view of the lack of privacy with this type setup. However, the way I look at it I could either a) have an employer who REQUIRED it which would not be as favorable as voluntary IMO. b) I could be working in a office somewhere. c) it doesn&#8217;t have to be something you are forced to camp-out all day. This scenario would only apply to those individuals who would find it favorable.</p>
<p>Ryan<br />
<a href="http://mindonstatic.com" rel="nofollow">http://mindonstatic.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/15/ambient-video-awareness-and-visible-conversations/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hexagon is a fascinating idea implemented in a way that I would never want to use. For my tastes, it is just too intrusive. That said, I would like the ability to publish more useful presence information.

I am not willing to set status messages in my IM client. It is not only disruptive, but if I forget to update it, it becomes counterproductive. It would be a huge improvement if my calendar and phone could set status with my IM client. Of course, that will add layers of complexity that would either require a more sophisticated IM client or an agent. Something needs to prioritize the information sent by the two (or more) devices. Beyond the basics, I&#039;d want different calls to have different priorities (&quot;Talking to boss--Do not disturb&quot; v. &quot;On phone&quot;).

Using cameras is sort of a &quot;Mechanical Turk&quot; approach to the problem. It makes sense to me that it would be relatively easy to glean better presence information from a glance at video. (Funny how these things all weave together.) Kind of clever--it just comes at too high a price (the intrusiveness) for me. Perhaps if this issue is more widely recognized as a problem, other potential solutions will emerge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hexagon is a fascinating idea implemented in a way that I would never want to use. For my tastes, it is just too intrusive. That said, I would like the ability to publish more useful presence information.</p>
<p>I am not willing to set status messages in my IM client. It is not only disruptive, but if I forget to update it, it becomes counterproductive. It would be a huge improvement if my calendar and phone could set status with my IM client. Of course, that will add layers of complexity that would either require a more sophisticated IM client or an agent. Something needs to prioritize the information sent by the two (or more) devices. Beyond the basics, I&#8217;d want different calls to have different priorities (&#8220;Talking to boss&#8211;Do not disturb&#8221; v. &#8220;On phone&#8221;).</p>
<p>Using cameras is sort of a &#8220;Mechanical Turk&#8221; approach to the problem. It makes sense to me that it would be relatively easy to glean better presence information from a glance at video. (Funny how these things all weave together.) Kind of clever&#8211;it just comes at too high a price (the intrusiveness) for me. Perhaps if this issue is more widely recognized as a problem, other potential solutions will emerge.</p>
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		<title>By: johnleeke</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/15/ambient-video-awareness-and-visible-conversations/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnleeke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 02:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jon:

In your FlashMeeting discussion with Peter and Marc, he is describing my work as a building restoration carpenter and how I share my knowledge with this new internet/video media:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/fmm.php?pwd=18b1a8-6923&amp;jt=00:04:11

For about a year now I have been using FlashMeeting to train people in the building restoration skills. For example, here I show how to glaze a window sash with tradition putty: 

http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/memo.php?pwd=444f34-4846&amp;jt=00:45:41

I package and archive these sessions in a simple catalog that is indexed with text links that drill down into specific topics in each session. You can see that here, as FlashMeeting replays:

http://historichomeworks.com/hhw/conf/vidconf.htm

I&#039;m currently working on upgrading the text index to an image index, for non-English speaking and illiterate viewers. Some of these training session replays have been used 5,000 times by 2,000 viewers on six continents:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/kmi_fm/replaymap.php?pwd=0f3ad1-5717

I&#039;m hoping to work with Peter and Marc to analyze this viewership to extend my reach even further and help them more effectively.

The topics for these sessions are set by the participants. I often do a little preparation, but the session is live and the details covered are in direct response to participants questions and reactions. After the session I do a little rough editing in the FlashMeeting system, then catalog and index the material. I have just put together an outfit so I can shoot these session in my workshop, or on a worksite:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/memo.php?pwd=514db8-6988&amp;jt=00:52:55

I&#039;m using a completely mobile and compact TC-1100 tablet PC, and a Sony PC330 video cam over my wireless LAN:

http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/memo.php?pwd=514db8-6988&amp;jt=00:41:04

You ask if this work captures the character of the preservation carpenter&#039;s work. Well, the intent of these sessions to pass my own knowledge on to the very specific interests and needs of others. The thrust is more to cover particular procedures and drill right down to very detailed nuances of craft technique--something that can only be done INTERACTIVELY, in these LIVE sessions.

For capturing the character and essence of the work, I think my video blogging might become better at that. See my Reports from the Field video blog:

http://historichomeworks.phovi.com/


I&#039;d be interested in your comments on what you think is working here, and how I might best carry this work forward.


John
by hammer and hand great works do stand
by cam and light he shoots it right
by Mind, Hand and Heart we share the Art

www.HistoricHomeWorks.com

JohnLeeke &gt;&gt;at&gt;dot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon:</p>
<p>In your FlashMeeting discussion with Peter and Marc, he is describing my work as a building restoration carpenter and how I share my knowledge with this new internet/video media:</p>
<p><a href="http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/fmm.php?pwd=18b1a8-6923&#038;jt=00:04:11" rel="nofollow">http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/fmm.php?pwd=18b1a8-6923&#038;jt=00:04:11</a></p>
<p>For about a year now I have been using FlashMeeting to train people in the building restoration skills. For example, here I show how to glaze a window sash with tradition putty: </p>
<p><a href="http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/memo.php?pwd=444f34-4846&#038;jt=00:45:41" rel="nofollow">http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/memo.php?pwd=444f34-4846&#038;jt=00:45:41</a></p>
<p>I package and archive these sessions in a simple catalog that is indexed with text links that drill down into specific topics in each session. You can see that here, as FlashMeeting replays:</p>
<p><a href="http://historichomeworks.com/hhw/conf/vidconf.htm" rel="nofollow">http://historichomeworks.com/hhw/conf/vidconf.htm</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently working on upgrading the text index to an image index, for non-English speaking and illiterate viewers. Some of these training session replays have been used 5,000 times by 2,000 viewers on six continents:</p>
<p><a href="http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/kmi_fm/replaymap.php?pwd=0f3ad1-5717" rel="nofollow">http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/kmi_fm/replaymap.php?pwd=0f3ad1-5717</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping to work with Peter and Marc to analyze this viewership to extend my reach even further and help them more effectively.</p>
<p>The topics for these sessions are set by the participants. I often do a little preparation, but the session is live and the details covered are in direct response to participants questions and reactions. After the session I do a little rough editing in the FlashMeeting system, then catalog and index the material. I have just put together an outfit so I can shoot these session in my workshop, or on a worksite:</p>
<p><a href="http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/memo.php?pwd=514db8-6988&#038;jt=00:52:55" rel="nofollow">http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/memo.php?pwd=514db8-6988&#038;jt=00:52:55</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m using a completely mobile and compact TC-1100 tablet PC, and a Sony PC330 video cam over my wireless LAN:</p>
<p><a href="http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/memo.php?pwd=514db8-6988&#038;jt=00:41:04" rel="nofollow">http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/memo.php?pwd=514db8-6988&#038;jt=00:41:04</a></p>
<p>You ask if this work captures the character of the preservation carpenter&#8217;s work. Well, the intent of these sessions to pass my own knowledge on to the very specific interests and needs of others. The thrust is more to cover particular procedures and drill right down to very detailed nuances of craft technique&#8211;something that can only be done INTERACTIVELY, in these LIVE sessions.</p>
<p>For capturing the character and essence of the work, I think my video blogging might become better at that. See my Reports from the Field video blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://historichomeworks.phovi.com/" rel="nofollow">http://historichomeworks.phovi.com/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in your comments on what you think is working here, and how I might best carry this work forward.</p>
<p>John<br />
by hammer and hand great works do stand<br />
by cam and light he shoots it right<br />
by Mind, Hand and Heart we share the Art</p>
<p><a href="http://www.HistoricHomeWorks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.HistoricHomeWorks.com</a></p>
<p>JohnLeeke &gt;&gt;at&gt;dot</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-01-17 &#187; Holger Dieterich - Web Konzepter</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/15/ambient-video-awareness-and-visible-conversations/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[links for 2007-01-17 &#187; Holger Dieterich - Web Konzepter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Ambient video awareness and visible conversations « Jon Udell Thoughts about an online conferencing tool where you have to raise your hand and then take turns in conversation. This makes the recording surprisingly interesting. (tags: collaboration flash presence video) [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Manuzhai</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/15/ambient-video-awareness-and-visible-conversations/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Manuzhai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, there are these things that help setting the status message. I think some of the latest VoIP-tech, for example, can actually automatically set &quot;On the Phone&quot; status messages, and I&#039;m guessing I could get my Symbian handset with Python on it to set my status over Bluetooth if I really wanted it to... &quot;Idle&quot; is also easily automated; &quot;Do Not Disturb&quot; is the actual problem there, I guess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there are these things that help setting the status message. I think some of the latest VoIP-tech, for example, can actually automatically set &#8220;On the Phone&#8221; status messages, and I&#8217;m guessing I could get my Symbian handset with Python on it to set my status over Bluetooth if I really wanted it to&#8230; &#8220;Idle&#8221; is also easily automated; &#8220;Do Not Disturb&#8221; is the actual problem there, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: fudge.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Enter the hive</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/15/ambient-video-awareness-and-visible-conversations/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fudge.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Enter the hive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 02:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Worker Daily turned me on to a post from John Udell relating to an ambient video awareness. Oddly enough, psychotropic drugs are not [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/15/ambient-video-awareness-and-visible-conversations/#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Udell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;On the other hand, setting a status message is much less confronting/privacy-invading than allowing people to watch you when you’re at work.&quot;

I believe Peter would claim that part of the benefit is not having to explicitly set a status message -- though you do have to explicitly &quot;enter&quot; the room.

Still, I agree that visual cues can be insufficient or even, in a case Peter cited, misleading. He showed a screenshot of himself, head buried in hands, which was captured by a coworker whose evaluation Peter had just done. The obvious conclusion was that Peter was in despair over the coworker, in fact it was due to news he&#039;d just received about a completely different matter.

I mentioned to him that maybe, if you buy into this model, more context might be needed. So the system might, for example, show which (non-confidential) items people have recently read or posted, or are actively reading and posting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On the other hand, setting a status message is much less confronting/privacy-invading than allowing people to watch you when you’re at work.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe Peter would claim that part of the benefit is not having to explicitly set a status message &#8212; though you do have to explicitly &#8220;enter&#8221; the room.</p>
<p>Still, I agree that visual cues can be insufficient or even, in a case Peter cited, misleading. He showed a screenshot of himself, head buried in hands, which was captured by a coworker whose evaluation Peter had just done. The obvious conclusion was that Peter was in despair over the coworker, in fact it was due to news he&#8217;d just received about a completely different matter.</p>
<p>I mentioned to him that maybe, if you buy into this model, more context might be needed. So the system might, for example, show which (non-confidential) items people have recently read or posted, or are actively reading and posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Manuzhai</title>
		<link>http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/15/ambient-video-awareness-and-visible-conversations/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Manuzhai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With regards to Hexagon, I have to wonder what information a visual view of a person really gives you over and above, say, MSN or Jabber/XMPP presence status. Okay, they don&#039;t really distinguish between on-the-phone-gesticulating-wildly and on-the-phone-on-hold (although Jabber/XMPP, at least, can do custom status messages), but they do get 80% there. On the other hand, setting a status message is much less confronting/privacy-invading than allowing people to watch you when you&#039;re at work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regards to Hexagon, I have to wonder what information a visual view of a person really gives you over and above, say, MSN or Jabber/XMPP presence status. Okay, they don&#8217;t really distinguish between on-the-phone-gesticulating-wildly and on-the-phone-on-hold (although Jabber/XMPP, at least, can do custom status messages), but they do get 80% there. On the other hand, setting a status message is much less confronting/privacy-invading than allowing people to watch you when you&#8217;re at work.</p>
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