Comments on: Conceptual barriers http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/ Strategies for Internet citizens Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:45:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: First have a great use experience, then have a great user experience « Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-127925 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:35:39 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-127925 [...] I think this principle applies much more broadly. Recently, for example, I mentioned my positive reaction to the $8/month commodity hosting offered by BlueHost.com. Ironically, BlueHosts’s founder [...]

]]> By: Annotate the web, then rewire it « Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-127922 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:35:25 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-127922 [...] more importantly, I think it could ultimately appeal to non-technical folks, but there are some conceptual barriers to overcome. The concept of “wiring the web” is one of those, but not the first one. [...]

]]> By: Calendar cross-publishing concepts « Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-127919 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:35:01 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-127919 [...] must hold in their heads in order to do things, and it’s closely related to my recent item on conceptual barriers. Let’s step back and inventory some of the concepts involved in this calendar [...]

]]> By: Gardner Writes » Blog Archive » Yahoo Pipes http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-593 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:38:04 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-593 [...] Services like these are not only cool for their functionality; they’re also effective at breaking down conceptual barriers. And it wouldn’t take too much to reconceptualize Pipes itself as a kind of information [...]

]]> By: Mixing and Remixing Information http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-439 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:13:55 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-439 [...] must hold in their heads in order to do things, and it’s closely related to my recent item on conceptual barriers. Let’s step back and inventory some of the concepts involved in this calendar [...]

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-191 Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:33:17 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-191 “I wonder what hosting company you chose.”

BlueHost, based on:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/05/24/78521_22OPstrategic_1.html

]]> By: Bob Erb http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-184 Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:49:06 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-184 Speaking as part of the lazy web, I wonder what hosting company you chose. I’m looking to set up a new site, and $8/month sounds nice.

]]> By: jon udel’s new project at locationportals.net http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-154 Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:02:15 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-154 [...] He discusses it in these two posts: An experiment in online community and Conceptual Barriers [...]

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-144 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 02:27:05 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-144 “It routes around a more direct path that would engage your local librarians, and, if you only ever look at amazon’s catalog, you might never find out about unique materials held by your local library (local history, archives, records, whatever they might be).”

I agree. These things aren’t mutually exclusive, though, or anyway shouldn’t be. Ideally you wouldn’t only use Amazon’s catalog, you’d merge it with the local one.

I’m also trying very hard to directly engage local librarians. Among other things, I’d like to help them be better stewards of info that doesn’t necessarily live /in/ the library, but relates to the life of the city and needs stewardship. So for example, archival records at city hall. As all this stuff comes online, and can be federated, the scope for the librarians’ talents enlarges.

]]> By: Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-143 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 02:23:07 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-143 “It wouldn’t be smart to make dealing with this issue an immediate priority, as the first thing to do is the ‘pipe-laying’ you are now engaged in.”

Exactly. There are lots of ways to filter, order, render, and federate result sets, but first ya gotta have result sets to work with!

]]> By: Basement Tapes » Conceptual barriers http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-141 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:01:31 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-141 [...] Conceptual barriers « Jon Udell [...]

]]> By: Michael Cohen http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-139 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:04:28 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-139 Jon: Looking at the elmcity site I think the decision to stay with minimal prettiness (Web 0.1) works fine so far. But I started to think that it may not scale. Perhaps you’ll want the service to be self-limiting to a number of sources that the user group can manage through the interface. But it occurred to me that even for a community like Ann Arbor where I live (once upon a time, pre-Dutch disease, also an Elm City) the number of things that would show up each calendar day from sources now available would be unmanageable as a simple list.
this would be true even if the user community were very small, like just the people on my block, because the number of relevant sources is still very large.
It wouldn’t be smart to make dealing with this issue an immediate priority, as the first thing to do is the “pipe-laying” you are now engaged in. But maybe if I post this observation, some folks will suggest alternative interfaces for the calendar that could re-represent the listed events.

]]> By: Trusted feeds « Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-136 Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:56:07 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-136 [...] Uncategorized — Jon Udell @ 10:55 am As several folks rightly pointed out in comments here, a community site based on tagging and syndication is exquisitely vulnerable to abuse. In the first [...]

]]> By: Gardner Writes » Blog Archive » Jon Udell on conceptual barriers http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-135 Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:03:43 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-135 [...] just read the latest from Jon Udell, entitled “Conceptual Barriers.” I must have grokked it through the noosphere before [...]

]]> By: Bill Seitz http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-134 Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:19:43 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/01/03/conceptual-barriers/#comment-134 So you think the “average” person will have FlickR and del.icio.us accounts in addition to joining your site?

(It would be nice if those guys would start supporting OpenID.)

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