Comments on: Django gymnastics http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/ Strategies for Internet citizens Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:44:05 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Perica http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-188 Perica Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:09:21 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-188 Hi there, I must confirm that 2007 is year of the python (at least for me) :) In december 2006 started using django, bought vps at openhosting and two days ago released portablepython.com :) Go python go! P.S. portablepython.com = python + django on USB stick Hi there,

I must confirm that 2007 is year of the python (at least for me) :) In december 2006 started using django, bought vps at openhosting and two days ago released portablepython.com :)

Go python go!

P.S. portablepython.com = python + django on USB stick

]]> By: An experiment in online community « Jon Udell http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-73 An experiment in online community « Jon Udell Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:04:06 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-73 [...] For my sabbatical project, I’m laying foundations for a community website. The project is focused on my hometown, but the idea is to do things in a way that can serve as a model for other towns. So I’m using cheaply- or freely-available infrastructure that can be deployed on commodity hosting services. The Python-based web development framework Django qualifies, with some caveats I’ve mentioned. And Django is particularly well-suited to this project because it distills the experiences of the developers of the top-notch community websites of Lawrence, Kansas. The story of those sites, told here by Rob Curley, is inspirational. [...] [...] For my sabbatical project, I’m laying foundations for a community website. The project is focused on my hometown, but the idea is to do things in a way that can serve as a model for other towns. So I’m using cheaply- or freely-available infrastructure that can be deployed on commodity hosting services. The Python-based web development framework Django qualifies, with some caveats I’ve mentioned. And Django is particularly well-suited to this project because it distills the experiences of the developers of the top-notch community websites of Lawrence, Kansas. The story of those sites, told here by Rob Curley, is inspirational. [...]

]]> By: Remi http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-66 Remi Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:49:59 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-66 The cat is out of the bag: http://blog.webfaction.com/big-holiday-present :) Remi. The cat is out of the bag: http://blog.webfaction.com/big-holiday-present

:)

Remi.

]]> By: Alberto http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-65 Alberto Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:26:55 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-65 WoW! My contract with DH will expire in february. JustInTime! In my opinion an affordable shared service, the 1.0 release and the publication of the DjangoBook will represent the real tipping point for Django. 2007 will be The Year of the Python :) WoW! My contract with DH will expire in february. JustInTime!

In my opinion an affordable shared service, the 1.0 release and the publication of the DjangoBook will represent the real tipping point for Django.

2007 will be The Year of the Python :)

]]> By: Remi http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-64 Remi Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:59:23 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-64 Alberto: > but this plan can’t run Django or Rails sites Well, something tells me this is about to change ... make sure you watch our blog very closely this afternoon ;) Remi. Alberto:

> but this plan can’t run Django or Rails sites

Well, something tells me this is about to change … make sure you watch our blog very closely this afternoon ;)

Remi.

]]> By: Alberto http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-63 Alberto Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:44:47 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-63 I'm a great Django fan and the only problem I experiment these days is the scarcity of web hosting companies officially supporting this framework (in fact the issue regards Rails also). You're right: WebFaction is a safe bet for Django developers. Its basic shared plan (Shared 1) at just $7.50/month could be very competitive with current Dreamhost customers, such as me, but this plan can't run Django or Rails sites: you have to subscribe to more expensive services. In my opinion WebFaction should offer Django/Rails support with its cheaper plan (with a 20-25MB cap on RAM used by long-running processes). This move will attract a lot of Dreamhost/BlueHost/etc. users and will ignite the market. Users will begin to experiment with Shared 1 and when/if their site really takes off they will migrate to more expensive plans. I’m a great Django fan and the only problem I experiment these days is the scarcity of web hosting companies officially supporting this framework (in fact the issue regards Rails also).
You’re right: WebFaction is a safe bet for Django developers. Its basic shared plan (Shared 1) at just $7.50/month could be very competitive with current Dreamhost customers, such as me, but this plan can’t run Django or Rails sites: you have to subscribe to more expensive services. In my opinion WebFaction should offer Django/Rails support with its cheaper plan (with a 20-25MB cap on RAM used by long-running processes). This move will attract a lot of Dreamhost/BlueHost/etc. users and will ignite the market. Users will begin to experiment with Shared 1 and when/if their site really takes off they will migrate to more expensive plans.

]]> By: James Bennett http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-62 James Bennett Fri, 22 Dec 2006 05:32:47 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-62 I know there's at least one hosting provider -- WebFaction -- who've gone to the trouble of making Django setup easy through their control panel. Others... it's a mixed bag. Those who have good support for Rails typically have good support for Django, usually through FastCGI, so that's a bit of a help, and there's a page on the Django wiki (http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoFriendlyWebHosts) with a list of hosts and relevant notes for setup. If you run into any issues, I'll throw in another offer of help if you need it :) I know there’s at least one hosting provider — WebFaction — who’ve gone to the trouble of making Django setup easy through their control panel. Others… it’s a mixed bag. Those who have good support for Rails typically have good support for Django, usually through FastCGI, so that’s a bit of a help, and there’s a page on the Django wiki (http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoFriendlyWebHosts) with a list of hosts and relevant notes for setup.

If you run into any issues, I’ll throw in another offer of help if you need it :)

]]> By: Jeremy Dunck http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-61 Jeremy Dunck Fri, 22 Dec 2006 04:22:12 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-61 +1 for Django IRC. I've been working with it for a while, though I'm not terribly fluent w/ FCGI. I, too, would be happy to help. +1 for Django IRC. I’ve been working with it for a while, though I’m not terribly fluent w/ FCGI. I, too, would be happy to help.

]]> By: Jacob Kaplan-Moss http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-59 Jacob Kaplan-Moss Fri, 22 Dec 2006 01:51:20 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-59 Yup, perhaps the biggest reason for PHP's success is that it Just Works™ on most web hosts. There are a few Django-savvy hosts out there, but by and large it can take a bit of doing to get things set up. If you're still having problems, I strongly recommend you ask for a hand in the IRC channel (#django on freenode) or on the django-users mailing list (http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/). We've got a fantastic community you can take advantage of :) I've been a fan of yours for years, so it's immensely flattering to see you check out Django. I hope you keep enjoying it, and I'd be very interested to read your thoughts after you've had a chance to work with it for a while. Yup, perhaps the biggest reason for PHP’s success is that it Just Works™ on most web hosts. There are a few Django-savvy hosts out there, but by and large it can take a bit of doing to get things set up.

If you’re still having problems, I strongly recommend you ask for a hand in the IRC channel (#django on freenode) or on the django-users mailing list (http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/). We’ve got a fantastic community you can take advantage of :)

I’ve been a fan of yours for years, so it’s immensely flattering to see you check out Django. I hope you keep enjoying it, and I’d be very interested to read your thoughts after you’ve had a chance to work with it for a while.

]]> By: Nick Hodge http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-58 Nick Hodge Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:51:39 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-58 ... if you think Django is tough, try setting up RoR on a web host... capistrano, SVN, Mongrel, mod_proxy_balancer, mod_fcgi, apache2.x/2.2 ... I must say, however, the framework is great. … if you think Django is tough, try setting up RoR on a web host… capistrano, SVN, Mongrel, mod_proxy_balancer, mod_fcgi, apache2.x/2.2 …

I must say, however, the framework is great.

]]> By: Chris Ryland http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-57 Chris Ryland Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:43:03 +0000 http://blog.jonudell.net/2006/12/21/django-gymnastics/#comment-57 Jon, I've been learning Django myself lately, as an ex-Zopista. What a wonderful, Pythonic framework! Agreed that it needs a much easier installation procedure; I guess I'm used to fiddling with Apache config files after all the indignities of running Subversion, Trac, etc. Would love to hear more about your experiences with Django. Jon, I’ve been learning Django myself lately, as an ex-Zopista. What a wonderful, Pythonic framework!

Agreed that it needs a much easier installation procedure; I guess I’m used to fiddling with Apache config files after all the indignities of running Subversion, Trac, etc.

Would love to hear more about your experiences with Django.

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